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Jimit
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|  Posted 07-08-2007 at 15:11
Tonight Tue 7th Aug 8pm Channel 5
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A re-construction with theories about how the stones were moved.
I was there, a wonderful experience!
Jim.
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AngieLake
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| Posted 07-08-2007 at 23:11
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On 2007-08-07 15:11, Jimit wrote:
Tonight Tue 7th Aug 8pm Channel 5
For those in UK
A re-construction with theories about how the stones were moved.
I was there, a wonderful experience!
Jim.
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Lucky you Jim.
Any idea if they've made a video of this, or if it will be on again?
I missed most of it due to an important phone call. The part I saw looked very interesting.
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| Posted 08-08-2007 at 11:16
i thought it was a great programme. i found the part about the acoustics
interesting. the effect of walking into,and through to the centre must have been very powerfull.
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| Posted 08-08-2007 at 21:55
Did another programme (Time Team?) recently make a replica of Stonehenge also?
I seem to remember watching a similar programme earlier in the year in which they built a replica and then performed some fanciful re-enactment of what may have happened.
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|  Posted 08-08-2007 at 23:11
Did Julian Richards take a saw to his own shin bone??
As you do!!
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|  Posted 09-08-2007 at 17:25
Watched this. Fascinating but why do tv makers have to try and sensationalise everything? Have to say the reconstruction was impressive. The programme did illustrate the scale of the effort needed to construct the real thing. It's a pity a permanent reconstruction couldn't be housed somewhere.
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| Posted 09-08-2007 at 23:48
They seemed to be saying that they'd found evidence that the bluestones were quarried in the Preseli's and transported by boat all the way including the Avon to stonehenge.
Is the glacier theory out of favour now?
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| Posted 10-08-2007 at 06:21
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On 2007-08-09 23:48, Laughing_Ball wrote:
They seemed to be saying that they'd found evidence that the bluestones were quarried in the Preseli's and transported by boat all the way including the Avon to stonehenge.
Is the glacier theory out of favour now?
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Its a score draw, and likely to go to penalties.
I favour the human agency side myself, but only because I want it that way.
As a feat though, I reckon 40 ton sarsens from the Marlborough Downs beats 5 ton bluestones from Wales any day.
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| Posted 10-08-2007 at 07:03
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As a feat though, I reckon 40 ton sarsens from the Marlborough Downs beats 5 ton bluestones from Wales any day.
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You have'nt taken into account the terrain that they moved the bluestones over though - check it out one day you might be surprised, no gentle rolling downs for a start....
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| Posted 10-08-2007 at 07:47
True enough, although the very start of the journey, if one of the alleged sources is right, would be a nightmare and half way along the route they would have had to find a way up Red Horn Hill which is mighty steep.
PS, incidentally, if both routes were flat and there was no sailing involved, then 5 tons x 240 miles = 1200 ton miles whereas 40 tons x 20 miles is 800 ton miles so in terms of calories expended you'd need to eat more Shredded Wheat to come from Wales, but if you sailed part way it would be about a draw...
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| Posted 10-08-2007 at 09:13
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On 2007-08-10 07:47, Chyknel2 wrote:
True enough, although the very start of the journey, if one of the alleged sources is right, would be a nightmare and half way along the route they would have had to find a way up Red Horn Hill which is mighty steep.
PS, incidentally, if both routes were flat and there was no sailing involved, then 5 tons x 240 miles = 1200 ton miles whereas 40 tons x 20 miles is 800 ton miles so in terms of calories expended you'd need to eat more Shredded Wheat to come from Wales, but if you sailed part way it would be about a draw... quote...
If you took a straight (ley) line from Carn Menyn through Gors Fawr circle, continued on down a bit to the Eastern Cleddau, its all down hill from there to the estuary and the sea, no shredded wheat involved ;-) round the coast up the Avon and your home and dry at Stonehenge with your Bluestones...
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| Posted 10-08-2007 at 09:27
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On 2007-08-10 09:13, mishkin wrote:
If you took a straight (ley) line from Carn Menyn through Gors Fawr circle, continued on down a bit to the Eastern Cleddau, its all down hill from there to the estuary and the sea, no shredded wheat involved  round the coast up the Avon and your home and dry at Stonehenge with your Bluestones... |
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Ah well you're changing your stance now and saying it was a piece of cake!
They would have had two difficulties that you haven't mentioned though - its quite a steep climb up to the Stonehenge site from the river and also they'd have to zig-zag through all the pre-existing glacially deposited bluestones.
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Jimit
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| Posted 11-08-2007 at 08:15
Has anyone been to Mothers Jam near Marlborough? This is one of the sites where it is assumed many of the Sarsens came from. Even now after thousands of years quarrying it is still possible to jump from one sarsen to another as the stones are still thick on the ground. The effort involved in moving 40 ton stones in this area beggars belief. Even with modern machinery it would be a nightmare.
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| Posted 11-08-2007 at 18:06
Give us a map ref and I'll add it as a site page.
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Jimit
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| Posted 12-08-2007 at 19:31
You have already got part of it under "Fyfield Down" but the stones are more thickly scattered here.. SU144701 ... further down the hill towards the Devils Den. I forget where I heard that it was called The Mother's Jam.
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P.S. Only time I was there I forgot the camera 
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Jimit
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| Posted 12-08-2007 at 19:42
Oops! Over on a certain other site http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/site/27/mothers_jam.html
the OS is given as SU134706. Perhaps It has no particular name but the stones are most plentiful here and at Clatford Bottom (NT)
Jim.
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| Posted 12-08-2007 at 21:06
Jimit,
The field notes on the site by Treaclechops were really fabulous.
Kevin
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Jimit
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| Posted 12-08-2007 at 23:24
It was a sad loss when she died. I met her a couple of times and she was inspiring. A great interpreter of the sites and her feelings.
Jim.
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|  Posted 13-08-2007 at 13:54
On 2007-08-12 21:06, cropredy wrote:
Jimit,
The field notes on the site by Treaclechops were really fabulous.
Kevin
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Thanks for drawing our attention to that article Kevin. It really IS a gorgeous description of a day out on the Wiltshire downs.! A fitting epitaph... she must have been a lovely lady.
Angie
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