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BERNARDQUATERMASS
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|  Posted 27-07-2007 at 11:46
What's all this about Silbury Hill being in grave danger of slumping, or collapsing?
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Andy B
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|  Posted 27-07-2007 at 18:17
Hello, see PDF
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/upload/pdf/Silbury_Hill_web_Update_Week_10_Delay_statement_-_new_version.pdf
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/6918916.stm
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| Posted 28-07-2007 at 17:06
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On 2007-07-27 11:46, BERNARDQUATERMASS wrote:
What's all this about Silbury Hill being in grave danger of slumping, or collapsing?
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It's a great shame as I was supposed to be visiting and going inside with The Prehistoric Society on sunday! The good part is that I don't have to get up at 5am sunday morning to get there by 11am
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| Posted 13-09-2007 at 11:36
I've only just joined the website here and appreciate that I may be rather late with this info but by all accounts, previous excavations of Silbury Hill had not been back-filled correctly, causing various old shafts to collapse, essentially making the mound unsafe to walk on. I drive past S H every day and at present, it is cloaked in scaffolding and plastic sheeting whilst the contractors attempt to make it safe again.
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| Posted 13-09-2007 at 14:32
Andy, I hope you don't mind me quoting another couple of well-known sites where this has been extensively discussed 
To GB.. The updates from EH can be found by scrolling through this lot..... http://www.headheritage.co.uk/headtohead/tma/topic/42575/#57
... and a bit more of a rant here... http://www.heritageaction.org/?page=theheritagejournal&id=170
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BERNARDQUATERMASS
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| Posted 26-09-2007 at 20:46
Looks like things are getting tricky inside the hill..............
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/upload/pdf/Silbury_Hill_web_update_19.pdf
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| Posted 02-10-2007 at 17:28
I'm just trying to get my head round the people of the Silbury area going to the trouble of clearing the land of trees to create meadows, then turning some land over to the production of turf, rather than food, collecting the turf, and covering the inner core of the hill with it.
PS Has anybody worked out how many square feet of turf there are in the hill??
[ This message was edited by: BERNARDQUATERMASS on 2007-10-02 17:39 ]
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| Posted 03-10-2007 at 10:01
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On 2007-10-02 17:28, BERNARDQUATERMASS wrote:
I'm just trying to get my head round the people of the Silbury area going to the trouble of clearing the land of trees to create meadows, then turning some land over to the production of turf, rather than food, collecting the turf, and covering the inner core of the hill with it.
PS Has anybody worked out how many square feet of turf there are in the hill??
[ This message was edited by: BERNARDQUATERMASS on 2007-10-02 17:39 ]
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Hi chaps
I don't know how much turf is needed but perhaps I can help with getting your head round the planning bit.
The late Neolithic/early Bronze Age is characterised by large monument building projects which require millions of labour hours. The fact that these monuments were constructed indicates that there was a large enough population which was producing enough food etc to create surplus. This enabled large workforces to be supported to free up time for construction projects. These projects appear to have been carefully planed sometimes involving years of astronomic observations, collection and transportation of materials etc.
This model of surplus has enabled many cultures to have large scale projects and sociologically speaking only takes place when a centralised authority is in control of resources. Think of large monuments and then consider the society which built them. The pyramids-Egyptian dynastic rule, Aztec and Inca buildings ruled by kings, Great wall of China-dynastic emperor, Roman architectural projects-deified (mostly) dynastic emperor. It normally needs some form of central control to enable collection and distribution of resources to feed surplus labour.
The mistake is to think that prehistoric people were all self-supporting farmers. This is a nice pastoral image which is probably further from the truth than any other idea. The society seems to have been highly structured with individuals "owning" land and most likely a dynastic leadership (possibly chiefdoms or kings) with land owners and artisans as well as farmers (and quite possibly expert monument builders who knows?).
Of course within this society it seems that priests held great influence leading people to coin the phrase "theocratic chiefdoms" as a description of society.
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| Posted 03-10-2007 at 11:48
If you put an electrical hat on your head whilst thinking about silbury hill , it may help you comprehend WHY.
The required insulating qualities of succesive layering of alternate materials is then better comprehended.
This is not the electricity that we employ at present, but has similer basic qualities.
The position of Silbury hill is determined by the pattern of longitudinal scaler waves that are detectable by dowsers.
The construction of silbury hill is similer to the pyramids which will also be precisely sited within the matrix pattern system of the detectable longitudinal waves.
The waves described permeate everything.
But travelling upon these waves, which act as carrier waves is other detectable substance.
By carefully arranging the obtainable natural materials around silbury hill , and meticuously placing them in such way, the substance been carried upon the scaler waves can be manipulated and its path and content quantity can be diverted and led to other desired destination/s.
I percieve the construction of Silbury hill was to cap off the area it covers, and it needed ever more depth of material to achieve this the more area was covered, hence the gradual lift up of height.
I am sorry if this annoys anyone, and would suggest that you merely consider this until such a time as I can gather enough proof to present this as fact, I will.
Kevin
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BERNARDQUATERMASS
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| Posted 27-10-2007 at 01:22
No update this week.
Must have been too busy shooing the press away.
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On 2007-09-13 11:36, GBfromDevizes wrote:
I've only just joined the website here and appreciate that I may be rather late with this info but by all accounts, previous excavations of Silbury Hill had not been back-filled correctly, causing various old shafts to collapse, essentially making the mound unsafe to walk on. I drive past S H every day and at present, it is cloaked in scaffolding and plastic sheeting whilst the contractors attempt to make it safe again.
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It certainly wasn't "cloaked" in anything but rain last Saturday. I drove there specifically to photograph this plastic sheeting (imagine what can be done in Photoshop with this, the title "Silbury in a multicoloured mac" still appeals to me).
The sheeting and scaffold are on the summit and to add insult to injury, Silbury wasn't even visible from over 800yds away.
Aw well - keep us updated GB.
Sem
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BERNARDQUATERMASS
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| Posted 31-10-2007 at 08:21
Just thinking.............
What would Skanska do if the money for the job ran out? Many projects run over budget and get trimmed back. I wouldn't like to see the hill left in limbo.
£1m doesn't get a lot these days.
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