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On 2008-08-20 20:19, cropredy wrote:
Laughing-ball,
Staying on subject.
Would you agree that zig zags have been depicted through out time, especially on funeral urns, dolmens, norman church doorways?
So what have zig zags to do with what our ancient friends may have been able to SEE, you may be thinking?
Lets assume that a zig zag is depicting 45 degrees?
Well I just happen to be able to detect these zig zags, and they occur between the lines that lead to two specific points where I detect one as spiralling one way , and t'other opposite way, and that these points are ALWAYS measurable to the fibonacci sequence, that is 89 inchs apart or any other number in the sequence.
So what you may be thinking?
Well if one is positive and t'other negative, and that a transfer occurs across and between them, and that transfer is both ways at once but at ninty degrees to each other, it may just be detectable as zig zags, it is.
And when you can percieve of this occurance, you begin to realise how the negative is chasing to the positive, and that this zig zag is actually DNA that is detectable, and that LIGHT is involved as the detectable flows along these alignments is influenced by the sun.
And that at night, when the sun's field influence is around t'other side, that the creator of light( BOLS) may be caught on cameras, more difficult in direct sunlight alignment, more easily seen when high density cover in the form of clouds are about though.
Anyway, keep in mind zig zags, believe me or find me unbelievable, I can do what I tell you, but you won't find it in any parrot book.
kevin
I've seen 'Aquarius' zig-zags and cave art 'dots' during the initial stage of trance. Brigantia refers to these as entopics.
"And not one mention of hallucinogenics from Karloff! Not the full story then is it chykers? Ha, of course you wouldn't know that would you? You have no idea what there is to see and experience in altered states of consciousness, in that dualistic paradigm that brought nothing but silence when Muddy and Brigantia probed you.
So what if Paul Muir is wrong, Kevin too. You are very wrong in your own assertions / assumptions as well chykers. And just as vocal!" "
That's a bit of an unworthy ramble Mike as when you re-read it you'll see you are blaming me but have forgotten to specify what for!!
I apologise Karloff didn't stress the role hallucinogens have played in some rock art but I'm sure he feels, like you and I, it probably played some. Just how much is impossible to know of course. I suspect you think it was a huge amount.
Here's one thing I think though: I seriously doubt that the many people who "do drugs" at megalithic sites in the hope of having experiences akin to those of the ancient people do any such thing. A twenty first century brickie that works for a prince and gets off his head on daffodils at stone circles still sees through his own eyes and life experiences not through the eyes of the builder of the circle - who may/may not have been high at the time - who knows?
I suppose people would say, aah it's the ambience of the place - that in combination with hallucinogens have a specific magical effect both now and "back then". To which I would say: how the hell do you know that Paul - er, sorry, Mike. One things for sure, when questioned about exactly WHAT insights you gain by acting at your age like most eighteen year olds in my street are just getting ready to give up, you'll go all vague and mysterious like a cornered Kevin. Tell us what you saw and learned in your last trip amongst the stones, don't just imply it was wonderful. Come on Mike, educate us ignorant daffodil avoiders...
Posted 20-08-2008 at 20:31
I mean't to post a link to zig zgs on a dolmen, the uprights will be positioned precisely on the alignment lines leading to two spiral points, i don't need to go to Russia to check, as I KNOW.
The portal opening will have contained white quartz, it will have emitted light under pressure, that pressure will have occured as the field condition changes due to the moon.
The spiral cup marks will also have had different crystals fitted to them, they too will have glowed as various alignments out in space cause pressure on those points.
If you LOOK at this fabulous picture you can SEE the electrical positions.
[ This message was edited by: cropredy on 2008-08-20 20:44 ]
On 2008-08-20 17:45, cropredy wrote:
Mikecroley,
Who knows who is right/wrong?
As far as altered states of conciousness goes, I feel that is wrongly named, opened field of conciousness may be better?
But it's a two way deal, and it depends what your field is full of, regards to what it will attract towards it, when open.
I have several times experienced an open connection to a larger field than my own, the normally quiet, possibly reptile brain kicked straight into gear, recognising and comprehending what it was opened up to.
I think we are locked down in 3D, only seeing a tiny portion of the whole, but the lower flow is definately rising, its as if a valve has been opened to flood in extra pressure, everything will alter, chaos first, then order.
There may be those who think they will be masters of this new order, I think they are in for a shock.
kevin
I'm off through a Portal come 2012 Kev, I've had enough.
On 2008-08-20 20:19, cropredy wrote:
these points are ALWAYS measurable to the fibonacci sequence, that is 89 inchs apart or any other number in the sequence.
So the universe is still constructed to imperial measurements I see....
Posted 20-08-2008 at 21:03
Cropredy said -
"Inch's are near enough over short distances"
'Fraid that won't do as an escape route matey. You've laced your postings about the lines you dowsed with numerous "exact" and "precise" measurements, always imperial, for the past year or two. This is one of the reasons that most people realised you weren't dowsing anything at all.
"And not one mention of hallucinogenics from Karloff! Not the full story then is it chykers? Ha, of course you wouldn't know that would you? You have no idea what there is to see and experience in altered states of consciousness, in that dualistic paradigm that brought nothing but silence when Muddy and Brigantia probed you.
So what if Paul Muir is wrong, Kevin too. You are very wrong in your own assertions / assumptions as well chykers. And just as vocal!" "
That's a bit of an unworthy ramble Mike as when you re-read it you'll see you are blaming me but have forgotten to specify what for!!
I apologise Karloff didn't stress the role hallucinogens have played in some rock art but I'm sure he feels, like you and I, it probably played some. Just how much is impossible to know of course. I suspect you think it was a huge amount.
Here's one thing I think though: I seriously doubt that the many people who "do drugs" at megalithic sites in the hope of having experiences akin to those of the ancient people do any such thing. A twenty first century brickie that works for a prince and gets off his head on daffodils at stone circles still sees through his own eyes and life experiences not through the eyes of the builder of the circle - who may/may not have been high at the time - who knows?
I suppose people would say, aah it's the ambience of the place - that in combination with hallucinogens have a specific magical effect both now and "back then". To which I would say: how the hell do you know that Paul - er, sorry, Mike. One things for sure, when questioned about exactly WHAT insights you gain by acting at your age like most eighteen year olds in my street are just getting ready to give up, you'll go all vague and mysterious like a cornered Kevin. Tell us what you saw and learned in your last trip amongst the stones, don't just imply it was wonderful. Come on Mike, educate us ignorant daffodil avoiders...
Vague and mysterious, symptoms of a good trip out with Dr Daff, chykers. I've already told you I prefer to dance to get my highs yet you still bang on about your drug abuse. So you had a bad tryp chykers, probably like all the other kids in your street. Follow their example and just say NO instead of slating them. Kids have a bad enough reputation already without you adding to their problems. You know, folk like you will rue the day when they say enough is enough.
On 2008-08-20 21:03, Chyknel2 wrote:
Cropredy said -
"Inch's are near enough over short distances"
'Fraid that won't do as an escape route matey. You've laced your postings about the lines you dowsed with numerous "exact" and "precise" measurements, always imperial, for the past year or two. This is one of the reasons that most people realised you weren't dowsing anything at all.
The measurements I detect MATEY are precise, and under most distances imperial will do, but over greater distances yes a difference occurs, it is not my fault that imperial inchs are not a match, it would be far beleedin easier if they were.
ANYTIME, ANYWHERE chicken .
I do detect exactly what I waffle about, and many before me have done exactly the same.
Are you scared to meet me chicken?
Are you scared to face up to the truth
You can tell all on here, I am not afraid chicken, as I KNOW what I am on about.
Though I am having a problem showing a bleedin portal tomb in russia.
kevin
On 2008-08-20 19:41, mikecroley wrote:
New order? Evolution occurs at a snails pace, no matter how impatient you may be for a dramatic change of consciousness en-masse in 2012 - it 'aint goin to happen.
[Why not?]
It just seems unlikely... how many prophecies have come true so far?
I'm guessing there is a reason why awakening/enlightenment states whatever you want to call them don't happen to most people and that its part of our gradual evolution. There doesn't seem any reason why that process would suddenly be accelerated in a short space of time even if it could happen. ...and would this directly effect us all, will the likes of george bush become a buddah?
Anway we will soon find out what 2012 brings.
On 2008-08-20 21:21, Laughing_Ball wrote:
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On 2008-08-20 19:41, mikecroley wrote:
New order? Evolution occurs at a snails pace, no matter how impatient you may be for a dramatic change of consciousness en-masse in 2012 - it 'aint goin to happen.
[Why not?]
It just seems unlikely... how many prophecies have come true so far?
I'm guessing there is a reason why awakening/enlightenment states whatever you want to call them don't happen to most people and that its part of our gradual evolution. There doesn't seem any reason why that process would suddenly be accelerated in a short space of time even if it could happen. ...and would this directly effect us all, will the likes of george bush become a buddah?
Anway we will soon find out what 2012 brings.
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You mean devolution when talking about human genetics surely!?
On 2008-08-20 20:19, cropredy wrote:
Laughing-ball,
Staying on subject.
Would you agree that zig zags have been depicted through out time, especially on funeral urns, dolmens, norman church doorways?
So what have zig zags to do with what our ancient friends may have been able to SEE, you may be thinking?
Lets assume that a zig zag is depicting 45 degrees?
Well I just happen to be able to detect these zig zags, and they occur between the lines that lead to two specific points where I detect one as spiralling one way , and t'other opposite way, and that these points are ALWAYS measurable to the fibonacci sequence, that is 89 inchs apart or any other number in the sequence.
So what you may be thinking?
Well if one is positive and t'other negative, and that a transfer occurs across and between them, and that transfer is both ways at once but at ninty degrees to each other, it may just be detectable as zig zags, it is.
And when you can percieve of this occurance, you begin to realise how the negative is chasing to the positive, and that this zig zag is actually DNA that is detectable, and that LIGHT is involved as the detectable flows along these alignments is influenced by the sun.
And that at night, when the sun's field influence is around t'other side, that the creator of light( BOLS) may be caught on cameras, more difficult in direct sunlight alignment, more easily seen when high density cover in the form of clouds are about though.
Anyway, keep in mind zig zags, believe me or find me unbelievable, I can do what I tell you, but you won't find it in any parrot book.
kevin
The trouble is Kevin that your experiences are so unique to you that they are meaningless to everyone else. Its a language of one. Unless other people out there share your experience of numbers and positive and negative, its all just an abstract mess.
Even the things you do claim to see, I don't understand what your measurements, lines, spirals, positve/negative etc, mean or why you attach such importance to them.
[ This message was edited by: Laughing_Ball on 2008-08-20 21:32 ]
On 2008-08-20 21:30, Laughing_Ball wrote:
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On 2008-08-20 20:19, cropredy wrote:
Laughing-ball,
Staying on subject.
Would you agree that zig zags have been depicted through out time, especially on funeral urns, dolmens, norman church doorways?
So what have zig zags to do with what our ancient friends may have been able to SEE, you may be thinking?
Lets assume that a zig zag is depicting 45 degrees?
Well I just happen to be able to detect these zig zags, and they occur between the lines that lead to two specific points where I detect one as spiralling one way , and t'other opposite way, and that these points are ALWAYS measurable to the fibonacci sequence, that is 89 inchs apart or any other number in the sequence.
So what you may be thinking?
Well if one is positive and t'other negative, and that a transfer occurs across and between them, and that transfer is both ways at once but at ninty degrees to each other, it may just be detectable as zig zags, it is.
And when you can percieve of this occurance, you begin to realise how the negative is chasing to the positive, and that this zig zag is actually DNA that is detectable, and that LIGHT is involved as the detectable flows along these alignments is influenced by the sun.
And that at night, when the sun's field influence is around t'other side, that the creator of light( BOLS) may be caught on cameras, more difficult in direct sunlight alignment, more easily seen when high density cover in the form of clouds are about though.
Anyway, keep in mind zig zags, believe me or find me unbelievable, I can do what I tell you, but you won't find it in any parrot book.
kevin
The trouble is Kevin that your experiences are so unique to you that they are meaningless to everyone else. Its a language of one. Unless other people out there share your experience of numbers and positive and negative, its all just an abstract mess.
Even the things you do claim to see, I don't understand what your measurements, lines, spirals, positve/negative etc, mean or why you attach such importance to them.
[ This message was edited by: Laughing_Ball on 2008-08-20 21:32 ]
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Well you may be correct, I cant even post a picture of a dolmen in russia, see if you can?
it is at kavkaz a dolmen with zigzags at either side
kevin
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