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brigantia
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|  Posted 28-06-2008 at 12:32
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On 2008-06-28 12:27, brigantia wrote:
...Let's hope he has a good time as he wants a few words with Littlestone and Jane ... for some reason or other. Twouldst be very entertaining. |
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He wants a few photos aswell, for some reason or other... (though he'll need a wide-angle lens for one or two of 'em!)
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| Posted 28-06-2008 at 12:41
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On 2008-06-28 12:27, brigantia wrote:
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On 2008-06-27 20:28, mikecroley wrote:
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On 2008-06-23 10:59, MuddyMick wrote:
I would like to inform those that might read this (from any camp) I will not be there to cause trouble or ruin anyones day out!
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Is that why you're ignoring me Mick or is it something else?
As I've said, I'll be wearing a Swastika around my neck, how will I know you?[/quote]
Mike -
Mick set off a few days back. Talked to him last nite on t' phone and he's hoping to get there Sunday assuming his work gets sorted. You can recognise him by his dark shoulder-length hair, dark complexion and short beard, nearly 6ft tall. He's on his bike, so will be in jeans and leathers. Let's hope he has a good time as he wants a few words with Littlestone and Jane ... for some reason or other. Twouldst be very entertaining. Next time they have one of their meets, if anyone from up North can gimme a lift, I'd love to meet these fruits aswell.
Have a good n'.
Cheers - Paul
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Thanks Paul, I'll keep an eye out for him.
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| Posted 30-06-2008 at 10:36
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On 2008-06-27 20:14, cropredy wrote:
Forgive them, for they could not KNOW.
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Hmm.. Freudian slip here Cropredy? messiah plagiarisms, a new phenomenon! What's next, the gosple according to Kev?
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| Posted 30-06-2008 at 11:07
Hi Paul, Mike, etc,
Well fate conspired against the Avebury excursion!
My cartilage in my right knee tore and I have been laid up at home (returned sat night)
Bloody painfull!
I will have to make sure I attend another meet up............never mind hospital tomorrow and probably a operation in a month or so.................so a couple of weeks off work!
Serendipitious!
Hope you lot had a good time?
Although I suspect belittlestone and jane etc avoided mtg any one with a contrary world view!
I will be very suprised if they stuck to their official meeting place and time.
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MM
P.s Paul if you look at some of the photos of Jayne she looks like she has been photographed with a fisheye lens never mind a wide angle!
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| Posted 30-06-2008 at 12:04
Thank you Paul!
You would have to ask for the links from brigantia (as it was he that had a load of old photies, or links for em)
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| Posted 30-06-2008 at 12:33
Muddymick,
Sorry to hear about the leg.
I was sure you were at Avebury,there was so much wind blowing about.
I met the mottly crew from a more colourfull forum, they were fine.
I didn't expect hug and kisses, I did get smiles and hand shakes .
They did meet exactly as they announced, and as a dour Yorkshire man that takes everyone as I find, they are OK, especially Jane, who I left an open invitation to call here in Cropredy if ever her and hers are about this way.
I did almost expect her to have a broomstick parked in the Red Lion, seeing as what I have read one or two saying about her, but there was no sign of one, even to my strange way of looking for things.
They don't comprehend what I am about, though one or two may do?
But they clearly care and are friends with each other, good for them.
Kevin
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| Posted 30-06-2008 at 13:01
Cheers kev,
well theres a turn up for the books ( I suspected wrongly)
I wouln't have expected them to be as honest as to treat people with open disdain or ridicule, I just don't believe it stems from anything other than social cowardice.
glad you had a good day..................maybe I will meet up with Belittlestone on another occassion (I bet he is looking forward to it as much as I)
If Jane is calling at yours sometime in the future I would suggest consulting a structural engineer.
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| Posted 30-06-2008 at 13:39
Muddymick,
With it been such a windy day yesterday, and You talking of hospitals, here's a little tip.
I wandered up and down hills yesterday, following positive and negative, I wandered into ditchs, and strode up embankments, following positive and negative.
The negative is the cleanser, it comes from high up, it needs allowing a route to lower levels, where it benefits and strips away all inpurities , bugs etc.
If anyone suffers from hay fever , Listen and read this link.
the military have had this on the subs a long time.
Our ancestor's utilised the hill forts and brought down the negative ions to all.
The Earth produces positive, too much of anything is not good , it is balance that count's.
http://www.myairzone.com/fresh_air_and_ions.shtml
There are two dragons flowing about, the lower one is positive, above that is negative, balance of the two is what is needed.
Rambling hobbit,
Kevin
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|  Posted 30-06-2008 at 14:51
Kevin.........The Earth managed on it's own for a long, long time, and it'll get along fine after we've gone.
As you say, everything is in balance so don't try to divert any of the Earth's energies. You could cause a major catastrophe.
When the Earth has had enough of us humans messing it about, it'll sort us out. 
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| Posted 30-06-2008 at 17:02
Paulcmuir,
Rectangles makes sense.
I went down into the base of the henge near the trees leading out to the stone avenue.
They would have been vastly deeper than at present, and the embankments higher.
If you seperate apart what makes light, then you will interfere with light.
If you seperate apart the downward push of a negative trying to get to the positive, you will allow the positive to rise up, and the water will come up with it also, positively charged water.
did you check around the well in the pub and the one in the church?
Fabulous carving on the church one.
I washed my feet and face in the stream just below silbury hill, and drank lots of the water.
It takes two to tango, and it will require positive and negative to form light and creation, if you were submersed in just positive, then the result on the camera may be showing as such.
Right by the trees in the henge base is a nodal point.
It FEELS better on top of the embankments, because its stuffed full of negative ions, its full of positive down in the ditch, doesn't FEEL good at all.
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| Posted 30-06-2008 at 18:33
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On 2008-06-30 11:07, MuddyMick wrote:
Hi Paul, Mike, etc,
Well fate conspired against the Avebury excursion!
My cartilage in my right knee tore and I have been laid up at home (returned sat night)
Bloody painfull!
I will have to make sure I attend another meet up............never mind hospital tomorrow and probably a operation in a month or so.................so a couple of weeks off work!
Serendipitious!
Hope you lot had a good time?
Although I suspect belittlestone and jane etc avoided mtg any one with a contrary world view!
I will be very suprised if they stuck to their official meeting place and time.
Regards
MM
P.s Paul if you look at some of the photos of Jayne she looks like she has been photographed with a fisheye lens never mind a wide angle!
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You mean to say I sat only feet away from Ginger Jane, love Moth, Swifty and Jimit, looking for a brown face to appear from beneath what seemed like hundreds of motorcycle helmets for nothing Mick!!?
That's a lie, I even removed my sun glasses so they could all get a better look to satisfy their gut instinct. I've met Jimbo before but he and the others made no attempt to speak upon recognizing me. I guess Andy's plea for love and peace must have percolated through. I didn't get to see Kev nor Paul either but I did have my mate Dan with me on his first visit to the area, and he loved it.
I know it looks cool kicking it over Mick but, an electric start might be a better option in future.
Wishing you a speedy recovery
mike
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On 2008-06-27 18:42, paulcmuir wrote:
we took fifty maybe more sequenced photos of the stones firing shot over 5mins, twice during that sequence we touched the stone for the aurora and firing to stop,........Paul
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I've got a wee question on this Paul: Are you using an 'Auto-focus' camera???? If so, the focus may change ever so slightly when the hand is moved, thus giving a different result and possibly the removal of the 'flaring' effect. If it's not an auto, or it's set to manual focus then it's quite interesting.......
Try the same pic with an auto and a manual at the same time and angles for comparison.
Just a thought.
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| Posted 19-07-2008 at 20:59
I see your rods on Tape 22 Paul.
The question arises, if they were filmed X% faster would they change length by X% or still stay the same length. If the former it would suggest they aren't rods but fast moving points such as midges. I don't know the answer but that would be a neat and conclusive test would it not?
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| Posted 20-07-2008 at 01:41
I've watched a few "bar" videos...but would never claim they are of insect origin...despite that seeming the obvious option..because very few insects have a "down to earth" approach..esp at the speed(or varying speeds) they travel towards the ground
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| Posted 20-07-2008 at 06:44
very few insects have a "down to earth" approach..esp at the speed(or varying speeds) they travel towards the ground
If you take a light source out at night moths will act like that. Instead of going straight to the source they slam into the ground at full speed near to it.
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| Posted 20-07-2008 at 06:59
Incidentally, the "rod" that travels upwards from the ground starting at 12 seconds on Tape 22 gets progressively longer. This is consistent with a bug taking off and accelerating.
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| Posted 20-07-2008 at 10:41
Well I have to confess I've been an amateur entimologist for 40 years and there's nothing you've said or shown that convinces me these couldn't be insects.
Not saying they are but a bleedin' obvious explanation is always better than a bleedin' outrageous one (especially if the latter one gets over-defended, a la Cropredy).
One thing you might like to admit (but probably won't) - these rods are a lot less in evidence in frosty weather aren't they?
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| Posted 20-07-2008 at 12:30
Well I have to confess I've been an amateur entimologist for 40 years and there's nothing you've said or shown that convinces me these couldn't be insects.
Not saying they are but...
Hi Chyknel,
That's an interesting theory of yours. Perhaps you'd like to go to some megalithic sites and photograph the insects, so you could post them on here and we could all compare your images with Paul's, you being one for tests and proof and all?
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| Posted 20-07-2008 at 13:33
you being one for tests and proof and all?
You make it sound like a fault. It's not.
Most likely, IMO, he has photographed insects. If he takes 2 cameras next time, set at different speeds, he'll know.
Why don't you suggest to him that he does that? After all. he's the one making the amazing claims, I'm merely suggesting a far more simple explanation (one which you share, I'll be bound). I think the burden of proof is on the one that makes extraordinary claims, don't you?
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| Posted 20-07-2008 at 16:39
You make it sound like a fault. It's not.
It's not a fault to question anything, whether it's instigating a new perspective on established 'facts' or whether it's something new.
I think the burden of proof is on the one that makes extraordinary claims, don't you?
Alas, no, I don't. If I was convinced that an image I was presented with in good faith yet was also sceptical that the claim about the image represented a misinterpretation, and if I really cared enough to want definitive proof, I'd be the first there trying to reproduce the image under controlled conditions whilst taking steps to gently prove my point.
I'd prefer to be in a position to say " Thank-you for that but I believe your interpretation is flawed because ...." then list and show them the findings I've made, rather than expect them to provide me with "proof".
We all have different ways of looking at things.
I was minded of this forum the other day whilst reading another, about making jam of all things. The enquirer had asked why his batch of jam hadn't set and was advised to add a couple of chopped apples and re-boil. The enquirer first went all over the internet to find a technical detailed chemical reaction explanation of *why* that should work, and only then would he proceed. Other people would have just added the extra chopped apples and gone ahead, knowing they'd been advised by someone more experienced than themselves yet unconcerned about the *why*.
Yet they would have all had jam that set.
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