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TimPrevett
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|  Posted 26-10-2006 at 14:39
Info recovered from old thread:
2004-04-28 12:39 I was idly browsing Julian Cope's book, "The Modern antiquarian" last night to see what is within easy reach of home (and letting even more pages separate from the binding!), and came across
a page on this Welsh village in Denbighshire. Page 323 if you have a copy.
JC mentions that the Church is built within a stone circle; I have been excitedly digging around online trying to see what I can find, and there is no mention of this. Copy and pastes below.
He also raves about a mound called Tomen Y Faerdre as a prehistoric sacred complex, and says it can not be a motte & bailey. All online records of it are mediaeval, and it looks just like a number of castle-mounds I have seen.
Any opinions?
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Tim
LLANARMON-YN-IAL CHURCH (ST GARMON), YARD
Reference: 19725 National grid reference: SJ19075616 Period:
Medieval Distance: 0.1
Broadclass:Religious, Ritual and Funerary Type:CHURCHYARD
Pre 74 Countyenbighshire Countyenbighshire Community:Llanarmon-yn-ial
Record Originator:Clwyd Powys Archaeological Trust
The church was mentioned in the Lincoln Taxation of 1291. It was
partially rebuilt in 1736; and renovated in 1870 and again in 1906.
The church was in Denbighshire until 1974; and in Clwyd from 1974
until 1996.
It is now in "new" Denbighshire.
http://www.cpat.demon.co.uk/projects/longer/churches/denbigh/16808.ht
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Llanarmon has a medium-sized churchyard, now sub-square in form with rounded corners, with the church itself centrally placed. It is evident that the southern segment has been detached for the
construction of Tan-yr-ysgol and its garden - when this is taken into account the churchyard appears more curvilinear. It is set on the edge of the Alun valley, the southern side of the churchyard
dropping away towards the river. It is well maintained.
Boundary: a stone retaining wall on the west with material slightly embanked behind it, and an external drop of over 1m. Wall continues around the north where the external drop is smaller, but this increases to nearly 1.5m on the east. A hedge on top of a low wall divides the present churchyard from the garden of Tan-yr-ysgol.
Monuments: sparse graves on the south though some grassed over; more to the west including modern ones, and a further group to the north-
east of the church. Sporadic graves on the east. The churchyard was cleared of many stones in the 1960s and some were used to revet the
bank of a stream nearer Llandegla.
Furniture: south-west of the church is part of the shaft of a churchyard cross, converted to take a sundial in 1774. Octagonal column is around 1m high with much eroded broach stops at the base.
The plate has gone, but even in the 19thC Owen had difficulty in deciphering its inscription and claimed it was 'unused and useless'.
Earthworks: church sits on a sub-square platform, traceable for almost the full circuit, and defined by a gentle scarp bank, which might be of natural origin, on the south side of the church.
Ancillary features: tarmac paths, wrought iron gate on the west, large ornate double gates on the north with a single gate adjacent, and a smaller iron gate in the south-east. Adjacent to the main
entrance on the north is a hearse house.
Vegetation: one mature yew west of the church, deciduous trees around west and north boundary, and others of smaller size beside path coming in from north.
Tomen-y-faerdre
post on TMA
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/site/137
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| Posted 26-10-2006 at 14:39
2004-04-29 08:19 I had this answered to a degree late yesterday afternoon.
One of my colleagues I know grew up near Ruthin, and now lives within the Vale of Clwyd (lucky soul), and being active within the churches in the area, I thought he might know someting.
I managed a very brief conversation...
"Rich - do you know of the circular-ish churchyard at Llanarmon-yn-Ial?"
"Yes"
"Do you know if it was built within a stone circle?"
"Oh yes, yes" (without hesitation)
He grew up about 2 miles away. So local opinion is that it is. Worth a look in sometime, probably.
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Tim
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| Posted 26-10-2006 at 14:40
2004-10-15 22:10
There is also a picture of this churchyard on page 149 of The Modern Antiquarian.
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| Posted 26-10-2006 at 14:41
I have visited and photographed - see here:
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=15598
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