On 2006-09-02 13:30, mithra wrote:
Yes I'm interested Roy, just haven't had time to check it out (and won't for at least another week).
You could be right but have all mounds etc been excavated in area I wonder? How many have been ignored and therefore lost in the past through agriculture/building/roads etc.?
For example a bronze age burial was discovered recently when they constructed a new ring road at a town in Shropshire - it was immediately lost to 'progress'!
What bothers me about Gristhorpe man being a 'ritual' sacrifice is that the eclipses are very quick, just a few minutes in duration, would they panic in that short space of time and make a instant sacrifice to the Sun god? (Then afterwards go to the trouble of making a coffin and preparing a suitable burial site?) Also wouldn't they sacrifice a younger man?
I suppose we'll find out at some point whether he died a natural death or not. Mithra.

On 2006-09-02 17:38, flatcap wrote:
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under the Eclipse of '99 and turned into a moronic fruitcake. For what it's worth Roy, you are absolutely right.

mike

On 2006-09-03 10:14, Salopian wrote:
I'm another that is very interested in your eclipse theories. I also saw the 1999 one and whilst it may/may not have turned me into a moronic fruitcake it had a very profound effect on me, and I suspect on the thousands of others ranged along the Cornwall cliff tops as far as the eye could see. I remember how everyone broke into spontaneous applause as totality ended, it reached deep into everyone's psyche I think.

For me (and it was cloudy!) I think the main feeling was being confronted with just a glimpse of the immensity and power of the universe, actually seeing the shadow of the moon rushing towards you over the sea and subconsciously computing from that the vast size and distance of the moon and yet knowing that was a mere pinprick compared with what lay beyond. Had God himself parted the clouds and looked down I couldn't have been more dumbstruck.

So, I reckon the ancient people would have been equally astounded. More so as they wouldn't know it was coming or whether the sun would re-appear.

On the other hand, Mithra has a good point, it comes and goes, would you then feel it necessary to commemorate it after the event or associate it with a particular place? I don't know.

I rather like the cursuses commemorating tornados idea as with that you have lasting evidence - a track of fallen trees through a forest - creating, if you're lucky, a new path between significant places and provided by providence.

On 2006-09-02 21:01, cropredy wrote:
comment, it is confusing?

April 6th 647 bc,
"Zeus, father of the olympians, made night from mid-day,
hiding the light of the shining sun,
and sore fear come upon men."
Archilochus.


Kevin

On 2006-09-03 06:30, rbatham wrote:
Thanks for your encouraging words. I'm just wondering about tumuli lost to agriculture, etc. The gristhorpe one was excavated 1834. if there were others in the area I'm sure some mention would be made of them. Why would one be left and others lost to agriculture? When I look at maps where tumuli are located they are seldom in a close group, Alot around Stonehenge and Wiltshire, but hardly what one could call a cemetry. I'll keep looking. Roy

On 2006-09-03 13:35, kelpie wrote:
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On 2006-09-03 10:14, Salopian wrote:


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rather like the cursuses commemorating tornados idea as with that you have lasting evidence - a track of fallen trees through a forest - creating, if you're lucky, a new path between significant places and provided by providence.

On 2006-09-03 16:21, mithra wrote:
I like the tornado idea too.
Two years ago I saw quite a large one touch down just up the road - it completely removed the roof off a large workshop and deposited it in the field!

About 15 years ago a large tornado ripped through the village one night where I use to live on the Staffordshire border . Along it's path it ripped up some large old pine trees on the village green, removed hedges, chimneys and slates, demolished a conservatory, car ports, a substantial lean to and the cricket hut.
The roaring noise it made was tremendous!
We traced it's path the next day and it went across the fields for about 2 miles damaging crops, hedges and trees in it's way.

A large one did a load of damage in Birmingham last year.We have more than you think that do actual damage!

And, unlike an eclipse, there's a lasting and visible result!
So yes if they saw & heard a tornado and it had the power to rip up trees, bearing in mind there were more trees around then, they might well have venerated this natural power in some way and built something on a definite touch down spot or damaged area. Mithra.

On 2006-09-03 22:07, mithra wrote:
Tornado's are erratic - they follow no, so called, 'earth energy' path.
Terrain which attracts the right weather conditions seem to be the deciding factor - i.e. not many tornado's in mountainous country- flatter land seems to be the clue? Look it up.
As I'm out to grass, for a well earned rest, for a goodly while I'll leave you with this thought:
Spiral rock art - tornado's?
Have fun! Mithra.

On 2006-09-03 16:50, flatcap wrote:
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Absolute rubbish, where do you come up with your ideas? The same with Roy suggesting tumuli mark the spot where someone dropped dead, my god! Keep it real folks!

mike

mike

On 2006-09-04 13:14, rbatham wrote:
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On 2006-09-03 16:50, flatcap wrote:
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Absolute rubbish, where do you come up with your ideas? The same with Roy suggesting tumuli mark the spot where someone dropped dead, my god! Keep it real folks!

mike

mike

On 2006-09-03 22:07, mithra wrote:
Tornado's are erratic - they follow no, so called, 'earth energy' path.
Terrain which attracts the right weather conditions seem to be the deciding factor - i.e. not many tornado's in mountainous country- flatter land seems to be the clue? Look it up.
As I'm out to grass, for a well earned rest, for a goodly while I'll leave you with this thought:
Spiral rock art - tornado's?
Have fun! Mithra.