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Anonymous
User not Registered |  Posted 22-05-2006 at 15:41
It looks like an interesting discussion on TMA about this article has been locked.
I followed the earlier stages. What happened?
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Thorgrim
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| Posted 23-05-2006 at 08:46
What do you think happened? Red faces all round!
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KenWilliams
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| Posted 24-05-2006 at 17:55
There are a few things about the internet that bug me, one of the most annoying is rivalry and malice between one website/forum and another. It's a bloody nuisance to those of us more interested in the content rather than the poilitics of web discussions.
As a user of both TMA and Megalithic with no allegiance or preference as far as politics/site loyalty I have to say the routine slagging off of a particular site by another has the complete and total opposite effect to what is intended and though there may be more eminating from Site A than Site B, Site A to me seems far too preoccupied with dishonourable mentions of Site B.
This is the single reason for me visiting Site A less and less and I'm sure there are others who find the political bullshit and axe grinding unwelcoming and devisive for no benefit to anyone.
With all that said, the reason that discussion was pulled should be obvious especially to those who keep such a close eye on TMA from a distance, it was off-topic and off-topic discussions with no megalithic content are pulled with few exceptions from the TMA boards. You may find a very similar discussion with very tenuous links to the theme of the site remains on the forum for your viewing pleasure.
Personally I know very little about Mr. Cope, his music or views on the world except his thoughts on megaliths and that is all I am interested in discussing as far as megalithic discussions go and I'm sure the majority on TMA feel the same, though I am speaking purely for myself as an independent rock nerd who finds plenty to like about both sites.
These to and fro slagging matches are best kept in private discussions, they reflect badly on everyone concerned but especially muck throwers!
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Anonymous
User not Registered | Posted 24-05-2006 at 18:34
These to and fro slagging matches are best kept in private discussions...
Well said Ken. Smiles all round I say despite personal views.
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Anonymous
User not Registered |  Posted 24-05-2006 at 19:41
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On 2006-05-23 08:46, Thorgrim wrote:
What do you think happened? Red faces all round!
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Yes, that would be it. No other explanation is there. Couldn't possibly have happened when one of the Eds tried to delete a particularly offensive post in the new-look HH forum, which didn't quite behave properly.
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User not Registered | Posted 24-05-2006 at 20:03
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Anonymous
User not Registered | Posted 24-05-2006 at 20:16
The discussion hasn't been censored, its still visible from the HH end.
Please bear in mind most people use both sites so all this sniping and yahbooing is meaningless. There are two sites. Big deal.
Any chance of getting back to ordinary megalithic stuff here (preferably based on Newtonian physics)?
PLEASE?!
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| Posted 24-05-2006 at 20:28
Meaningless but fun 
(Sorry)
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User not Registered | Posted 24-05-2006 at 20:42
AndyB
I think Site A is you...
Site B is here (I think).
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| Posted 24-05-2006 at 20:42
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Are there any explicit reference to Newtonian physics on the portal? If so, please let me know where - I'd like to check them for accuracy. 
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User not Registered | Posted 24-05-2006 at 21:40
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Are there any explicit reference to Newtonian physics on the portal? If so, please let me know where - I'd like to check them for accuracy. |
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Probably not. But although his physics isn't dead accuate it's close enough for discussing big old lumps of rock I reckon!
What he did say, that I like a lot was this...
" propositions deduced from observation of phenomena should be viewed as accurate until other phenomena contradict them."
I think those who believe that are due a good long turn on here, don't you?
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| Posted 24-05-2006 at 22:52
This thread was started by someone asking" what happened"
So I will tell you what happened to my post I put on the thread on the end of the rainbow site.
It disappeared.
The thread had been started about the newspaper report on Julien Cope, they were discussing everyones right to freedom of speech, and his ,or anyones right to dress as he pleases.
As I was over on that site in a cunning disguise, after they had blocked me from posting , not because I was offensive or anything, but because they don't like my ideas.
The whole thing seemed the height of hypocrosy , to me, and especially in view of them banning the starman, because he uses a swastika ?
So I pointed this out to them.
They must have seen through my cunning disguise, because again I am blocked from posting, it makes you wonder how many others they have done this to, and how they are surpressing any discussions that they don't agree with?
The thread was about freedom of speech!
On this site, it has been suggested that all reference to alternate theories on megalithic sites be kept on the sacred sites forum, fair enough, it is awfully hard for me to keep to that , when I believe in all honesty, that the sites were built exclusively to manipulate and make best use of a force known by so many names.
I have wandered around the British museum today, marvelling at the Egyptian, Greek, far eastern relics, everywhere I can recognise reference in these relics to this force.
Or do you think they were chipping away at all that stone for fun?
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KenWilliams
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| Posted 24-05-2006 at 23:24
Hi Kevin,
Anyone unfamiliar with the long tale behind your being banned from TMA need look no further from your last post to understand why. You weren't banned for your ideas, you and starman could have been banned for constantly diverting topics on any subject under the sun to suit your own opinions and for not co-operating with requests to keep your ideas in one coherent thread rather than sprawled incoherently and incomprehensibly over every thread on the forum but thats not what happened is it?
Almost every post said exactly the same thing in 1,000,000 different ways, you and starman were not victims of the thought police as you would protest, if I remember correctly both of you became insulting to certain people on a personal level.
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| Posted 24-05-2006 at 23:39
winding back a bit, the elusive anonymous wrote...
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Probably not. But although his physics isn't dead accuate it's close enough for discussing big old lumps of rock I reckon!
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Indeed. That's why I've put a small poster i bought at stonehenge up on the wall of my A-level physics lab. There's plenty of food for thought (levers, equilibrium, work done).
as for "what happened?", it seems that we are wasting time with meta-discussions in the forums.
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| Posted 24-05-2006 at 23:48
>> On this site, it has been suggested that all reference to alternate theories on megalithic sites be kept on the sacred sites forum
Not true. That's just referring to the Stones Forum (the one at the top of the page), where the contributors requested if that forum could be kept clean of such things as it upsets their sensibilities for some reason. Not a problem to have a split there. Personally I just pick and choose what I'm interested in but there you go.
As far as the rest of the Portal goes: Editorial wise (that's the stuff that gets filtered through myself and the other Admins) we try to stick to factual information in our main Site Pages and photo captions, so no Earth Energies there.
News wise we try to cover a mix of 'straight' and 'alternative' topics to reflect the makeup of our visitors. We we are at pains to welcome equally those of all beliefs and viewpoints without prejudice or mickey taking*.
As far as visitor comments on Site Pages and photo comments, any personal thoughts on any subject are welcome as long as they are clean, 'good spirited'* and vaguely on topic.
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* unless they start to get really tedious and piss us off or are Fourwinds - JOKE OK
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| Posted 25-05-2006 at 00:09
Ken Williams, under a constant barrage of insults thrown at myself, I always tried to resist dropping into the gutter.
When the sceptical tank overflows, it smells.
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| Posted 25-05-2006 at 08:05
As far as I remember Kevin, you were treated very patiently and courteously for the first few hundred posts making the same cliams, though myself and a few others were very sceptical. If discussing the problems with them is insulting to you then its probably best that you dont post them up for discussion at all.
All the discussions are still there, if you read back through them you will notice everything was courteous and civil until you began lambasting us and 'science' in general for being closed minded and sheep like when all we asked for was some form of proof other than your own concvictions, which is only natural. How are we supposed to accept anything you say when you completly reject scientific method as junk?
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| Posted 25-05-2006 at 08:52
Newtonian physics does work at our level of existence and only really needs alteration at the quantum or cosmological level (ie the VERY extremely small or the VERY extremely large). As far as the physics of stones are concerned Sir Isaac DID IT ALL. Newton was the real deal and as Carl Sagan has said science is our light in this "demon haunted world"
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Anonymous
User not Registered | Posted 25-05-2006 at 08:58
* unless they start to get really tedious and piss us off or are Fourwinds - JOKE OK
When you have stopped splitting your sides, may I suggest you read and digest the perceptive assessment of the Portal by FourWinds regarding design and usability.
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User not Registered | Posted 25-05-2006 at 08:58
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On 2006-05-25 08:52, jasonvaughn wrote:
As far as the physics of stones are concerned Sir Isaac DID IT ALL. Newton was the real deal and as Carl sagan has said science is our light in this "demon haunted world"
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Nicely put. (Carl Sagan was fantastic wasn't he? I wish he could come to the megameet picnic)
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