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 Posted 20-12-2011 at 21:25   
Hi,

This one popped up in my head when reading one of the other topics regarding Avebury. I recalled it on the 50 top megaliths of all time.

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The Cove, Avebury, England. - An attempt to straighten the two stones called 'The Cove' in 2003, revealed the fact that one of the stones, which stands 14ft (4.4m), above the ground, also exists at least 7ft (2.2m) below the ground (reaching a possible 10ft /3m deep).

The weight of this stone is calculated at around 100 tons.

Refs: Daily Telegraph News (8 April 2003); The Scotsman (17 April 2003), The Guardian (18 April 2003)



Taken from:

top 50 megaliths

So heres the question...

why use a stone so big?

1) no possible thought was given to the size i.e it was convenient
2) The stone was picked for structural purpose, i.e to last
3) All The stones were intended to be like this, but following the effort of the first, smaller stones were sourced.
4) driving the stone so deep had another purpose, possibly connected to the use of the stones.

The issue I have with the first, is that having the stone so heavy would have been counter to the practicality. consider the effort dropping such a long (not only heavy)stone against the consideration of other monuments, and stones used.
The issue with the second is its pretty conclusive that the builders of megaliths generally were aware of what was needed, even if it has been suggested this stone was a first attempt. I have not seen any dating material, to suggest when this stone was placed in relation to the others.

I cant help thinking Im missing something with this, is this not a mystery in itself.

One theory which has been suggested involves the ancients somehow utilising the earths energy, and in this field driving stakes into the ground is said to influence earth energy lines in this way. Could this stone have been driven so deeply for such a purpose?

Some fieldwork to back this claim up,

A diagram with a dowsing observation is here, incidently the energy was dowsed going through the cove itself.



Any thoughts?






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 Posted 20-12-2011 at 23:07   
Hi Tom,

Several stones are known to be set very deeply, Rudston Monolith is another one. Perhaps there's a clue in the underlying geology as well as geomancy?

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 Posted 21-12-2011 at 00:19   
Tom, top 50 megaliths?
Is size that important?
Does it depend on where you measure it from?
Science does lots of things, but the pleasure gained from from a small monolith versus that from a huge megalith has never been measured.






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 Posted 21-12-2011 at 09:15   
Ledgehammer,
Theres possibly another stone missing at the cove from where the two detectable flows first meet each other.

Then I cannot emphasize the horizontal layerings enough, and Avebury IMHO is ALL about the concentration and direction of these two seperate flows with the division of the two in the horizontal layers vital.

If You think of each stone as an accumulator, with switching abilities relative to their crystaline inbuilt matrix, and put this together with modern solid state technology, then as the inputs incoming and emmiting from above and below at the nodal points where the stones are positioned upon varies relative to how our solar system is churning, then local ability to manipulate these flows in a designd and desired method becomes available.

IF You know the flows and can recognise them and interact with them.
Then by doing so You can achieve a local control and concentration of the two opposite spin serpents to achieve Your objectives and desired usages of these flows.

Size does matter , in so much as the larger mass can store and act in a sponge like manner in local storage, and as the flows naturally circulate at very specific diameters with individual shaping relative to where the inflow and outflow central nodal points are, then by placing large mass stones around such circulations precisely where multiple inflow and outflow minor lines are crossing the circulations You then build up in series even more local accumulations of each opposite spin flows.
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On 2011-12-21 09:15, cropredy wrote:
Ledgehammer,
Theres possibly another stone missing at the cove from where the two detectable flows first meet each other.

Then I cannot emphasize the horizontal layerings enough, and Avebury IMHO is ALL about the concentration and direction of these two seperate flows with the division of the two in the horizontal layers vital.

If You think of each stone as an accumulator, with switching abilities relative to their crystaline inbuilt matrix, and put this together with modern solid state technology, then as the inputs incoming and emmiting from above and below at the nodal points where the stones are positioned upon varies relative to how our solar system is churning, then local ability to manipulate these flows in a designd and desired method becomes available.

IF You know the flows and can recognise them and interact with them.
Then by doing so You can achieve a local control and concentration of the two opposite spin serpents to achieve Your objectives and desired usages of these flows.

Size does matter , in so much as the larger mass can store and act in a sponge like manner in local storage, and as the flows naturally circulate at very specific diameters with individual shaping relative to where the inflow and outflow central nodal points are, then by placing large mass stones around such circulations precisely where multiple inflow and outflow minor lines are crossing the circulations You then build up in series even more local accumulations of each opposite spin flows.
cropredy



Hi
Ok so you can manipulate these flows but to attain what? What is the outcome of all this?

It's all well and good to talk about "specific diameters", "spin flows" and "crystaline inbuilt matrix" but what does all this "manipulation" of flows lead to?






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 Posted 21-12-2011 at 13:23   
Quote:
why use a stone so big?



Which stone is it Tom? The one to the East or North or the other half-way one?




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Quote:

On 2011-12-21 09:31, karloff wrote:


Quote:

On 2011-12-21 09:15, cropredy wrote:
Ledgehammer,
Theres possibly another stone missing at the cove from where the two detectable flows first meet each other.

Then I cannot emphasize the horizontal layerings enough, and Avebury IMHO is ALL about the concentration and direction of these two seperate flows with the division of the two in the horizontal layers vital.

If You think of each stone as an accumulator, with switching abilities relative to their crystaline inbuilt matrix, and put this together with modern solid state technology, then as the inputs incoming and emmiting from above and below at the nodal points where the stones are positioned upon varies relative to how our solar system is churning, then local ability to manipulate these flows in a designd and desired method becomes available.

IF You know the flows and can recognise them and interact with them.
Then by doing so You can achieve a local control and concentration of the two opposite spin serpents to achieve Your objectives and desired usages of these flows.

Size does matter , in so much as the larger mass can store and act in a sponge like manner in local storage, and as the flows naturally circulate at very specific diameters with individual shaping relative to where the inflow and outflow central nodal points are, then by placing large mass stones around such circulations precisely where multiple inflow and outflow minor lines are crossing the circulations You then build up in series even more local accumulations of each opposite spin flows.
cropredy



Hi
Ok so you can manipulate these flows but to attain what? What is the outcome of all this?

It's all well and good to talk about "specific diameters", "spin flows" and "crystaline inbuilt matrix" but what does all this "manipulation" of flows lead to?





Thats what drives Me on, otherwise You would see the end of me here.
IMHO,
All of creation is composed of the duality of spin that is detectable both as spin and as flowing in seperate meandering river like pathways.
The flows also layer on top of each other and travel in exactly the opposite directions.
the flows widths are detectable, and vary continually, both in width and directions.
Without doubt the variations are caused by solar planets and moons , as they trundle about in whatever way they do.

You are composed of this duality most often depicted as serpents, as is every atom, as is each planet and star.
It is a self similer system that transfers about( look up Birkeland currents)

It is My personal comprehension that our none physical selves are eternal, and enter and exit into life and occupy the physical .
I also consider that our ancestors knew all of this intimately, and certain groups of them knew how to utilise this knowledge to locally reincarnate back to their tribe.

I am also really understanding and operating with these flows in a human to human capacity, which is a subject on it's own, but the personal duality field is definately upliftable , and We are fully self repairing beings....IF We have sufficient capacity of the duality of flows, most people are sadly almost totally discharged.

I would ask for tolerance in all of this as I am somewhat flying by the seat of My pants alone.
If I have offended You in the past it was not mean't other than retaliation and I most sincerely apologise.
I am desperately trying not to offend anymore, and it is upto Me to learn how to best cope with understandable sceptism.
cropredy...kevin




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 Posted 21-12-2011 at 17:48   
Forgot to add that the flows are at standstill right now.
Solstice.
cropredy




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 Posted 21-12-2011 at 20:24   


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On 2011-12-21 13:23, jonm wrote:
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why use a stone so big?



Which stone is it Tom? The one to the East or North or the other half-way one?



Jon,

this site may be of interest, it has some panoramic views of Avebury (you mentioned you had never been), plus a little info about the site, some of which may be unconfirmed mind

Avebury cove

the site does mention this,:

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Recently the Cove stones have undergone work to stabilise them. During this process excavation has revealed that the stones are set far deeper in the ground than had been previously thought which makes them substantially larger than earlier estimates allowed. It is now thought that the "female" component may possibly approach 100 tons in weight and can be considered as the most massive surviving stone of the monument. It has been suggested that this stone may have already been in situ due to its size and the large portion of it buried in the ground. If this was the case the implications for interpreting how the henge was built and located are considerable



I find this a little unlikely? This suggests to me that they are implying the site was built around the stone, or coincidently there happened to be a stone there. mmmmmmm...

To answer your question it is the female stone, many of the stones are either octaganal or phalos shaped, allegedly indicating male and female. heres a pic:



It may be helpful to look at dates e.t.c...

Tom




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On 2011-12-21 00:19, sem wrote:
Tom, top 50 megaliths?
Is size that important?
Does it depend on where you measure it from?
Science does lots of things, but the pleasure gained from from a small monolith versus that from a huge megalith has never been measured.





Sem

Avebury, rates very high by this scale!

The size wasn' t the attractiveness, rather than its size in comparison to the rest of the complex, and its depth: i.e it did not need to be as deep asthetically or structurally, so perhaps another reason. The answer to this may provide support to some of the theories I have come across.

best wishes

Tom




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On 2011-12-21 09:15, cropredy wrote:
Ledgehammer,
Theres possibly another stone missing at the cove from where the two detectable flows first meet each other.

Then I cannot emphasize the horizontal layerings enough, and Avebury IMHO is ALL about the concentration and direction of these two seperate flows with the division of the two in the horizontal layers vital.

If You think of each stone as an accumulator, with switching abilities relative to their crystaline inbuilt matrix, and put this together with modern solid state technology, then as the inputs incoming and emmiting from above and below at the nodal points where the stones are positioned upon varies relative to how our solar system is churning, then local ability to manipulate these flows in a designd and desired method becomes available.

IF You know the flows and can recognise them and interact with them.
Then by doing so You can achieve a local control and concentration of the two opposite spin serpents to achieve Your objectives and desired usages of these flows.

Size does matter , in so much as the larger mass can store and act in a sponge like manner in local storage, and as the flows naturally circulate at very specific diameters with individual shaping relative to where the inflow and outflow central nodal points are, then by placing large mass stones around such circulations precisely where multiple inflow and outflow minor lines are crossing the circulations You then build up in series even more local accumulations of each opposite spin flows.
cropredy



Kevin,

there is another stone missing from the cove (I always thought a cove consisted of three stones)

the fieldwork would indicate a correlation with some of what you say, I suggest perhaps the energy/ geometry came as a consequence of the stones, driving the stone so deep may have heightened the effect desired, or perhaps undesired.

best wishes

Tom







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 Posted 21-12-2011 at 20:39   
Ledgehammer,
Think of the stones like sponges, have You researched Kozyrev and torsion fields?
I KNOW that You are researching torsion fields.
http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/05/kozyrev_aether_time_and_torsio.html#more
cropredy




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On 2011-12-20 23:07, Runemage wrote:
Hi Tom,

Several stones are known to be set very deeply, Rudston Monolith is another one. Perhaps there's a clue in the underlying geology as well as geomancy?

Rune



Rune,

Thanks,

will take a look...

best wishes

Tom





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On 2011-12-21 20:39, cropredy wrote:
Ledgehammer,
Think of the stones like sponges, have You researched Kozyrev and torsion fields?
I KNOW that You are researching torsion fields.
http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/05/kozyrev_aether_time_and_torsio.html#more
cropredy



Kevin,

ha ha, you are well informed... My philosophy is to intake as much information as possible, cross reference, and experiment, eventually you are left with *the truth*, incidently each truth is relative to the subject, another interpretation of the source. Conciousness is the key, what you put in you get out.

best wishes

Tom




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 Posted 22-12-2011 at 16:12   
Some of the discussion on here has been about flows of energy, I've no idea if this is relevant or not but it's causing a ripple of excitement among some of my more geeky friends. Basically, this is happening and according to current (!) understanding, it shouldn't.

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/12/dropping-a-magnet-through-a-copper-pipe.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+makezineonline+%28MAKE%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

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 Posted 22-12-2011 at 16:36   
Many thanks Tom,

that's dead useful. Looked at it again; it's the smaller one (the male one) that is dead centre of the circle by the look of it?

Looked at it on google (should have gone there when visiting my uncle) and, viewed from the West (see image), the top surface of the 'male' stone appears to point North and up to the pole star:

Is that just an optical illusion or does it really do that?




[ This message was edited by: jonm on 2011-12-22 16:37 ]




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Runemage,
Do You know that experiments have been done where two strong magnets have been clamped together with their north poles looking at each other, this is then encased in a ball and a same weight one are dropped from several floors up.
They don't hit the ground at the same time.


Gravity is a consequense, not a force, and it is a net consequence of the two flows involved which twine together at the cove.
By seperating these two opposing serpent like flows a degree of local gravity control will have been achieved IMHO.
The stones will not have weighed anything when they were SOAKD in the flow that is attracted upwards, as we term it.

The normal net consequence is to fibonacci sequencing at the rate of 55 implosion versus 34 emmitance.

The whole place) Avebury_ is a fantastic device to interact in multiple ways with this duality, and they are magnetic in nature, as is every atom in creation.






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On 2011-12-22 16:36, jonm wrote:
Many thanks Tom,

that's dead useful. Looked at it again; it's the smaller one (the male one) that is dead centre of the circle by the look of it?

Looked at it on google (should have gone there when visiting my uncle) and, viewed from the West (see image), the top surface of the 'male' stone appears to point North and up to the pole star:

Is that just an optical illusion or does it really do that?




[ This message was edited by: jonm on 2011-12-22 16:37 ]



The circles are sited upon vortex points of implosion and emmitance.
The angles of the sheets of geometry that are detectable vary , but I would suspect that the stone is indeed cut( as are multiple stones) to FIT onto the geometry.
Paul demonstrates the consequences with His photography of ORBS.

The pyramids with their angles demonstate how they were FITTED to the geometry at that location, it is fixed geometry but the transfer about in universe that travels along the sheets is variable relative to resistances across the sheets.
The whole of universe is a continuum of transfer that is orchestra like, I am humbled to be able to follow it easily.
I can only report as I detect, and wish I was doing it full time as I am convinced those involved with building the sites were.
cropredy




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Quote:

On 2011-12-22 16:36, jonm wrote:
Many thanks Tom,

that's dead useful. Looked at it again; it's the smaller one (the male one) that is dead centre of the circle by the look of it?

Looked at it on google (should have gone there when visiting my uncle) and, viewed from the West (see image), the top surface of the 'male' stone appears to point North and up to the pole star:

Is that just an optical illusion or does it really do that?




[ This message was edited by: jonm on 2011-12-22 16:37 ]



Jon,

I'm not sure, I thought it was slightly slanted but its been a while, and to be frank they are massive, I found it very impressive and initially I had no realisation it was a cove, they are at the back of the complex.

allegedly this is the plan:



Im always a little cautious of Wikipedia, but it looks genuine. So yes the male one is dead center, the missing one is above.



Yes slightly slanted, but interesting point about the angle you have highlighted.

Here is a plan of the two avenues, in case you hadn't come across both avenues (I think this has something to do with the site itself, especially as there is the sanctuary at one end and beckhampton cove at the other).



and here is an interpretation of Thoms megalithic measurements:



Also I found this as well:





best wishes

Tom

[ This message was edited by: ledgehammer on 2011-12-22 18:01 ]




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Quote:

On 2011-12-22 16:12, Runemage wrote:
Some of the discussion on here has been about flows of energy, I've no idea if this is relevant or not but it's causing a ripple of excitement among some of my more geeky friends. Basically, this is happening and according to current (!) understanding, it shouldn't.

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/12/dropping-a-magnet-through-a-copper-pipe.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+makezineonline+%28MAKE%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

Rune



Rune,

powerful stuff

Tom




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