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Sacred Sites and Megalithic Mysteries >> Forteviot chamber
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cropredy
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|  Posted 18-08-2009 at 20:58
Why would a cist be placed central in the henge, with a spiral carved into the stone cap, and the body be placed on white quartz pebbles interlaced with birch strands?
This place will dwarf stonehenge, but will be a mirror image, any thoughts?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/scotland/article6792763.ece
http://www.ourfolkway.org/blog/tag/forteviot
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tiompan
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| Posted 18-08-2009 at 21:41
I visited a few days ,Forteveiot is a multi period site that was obviously incredibly important until the mediaeval period .
There are henges at the site but I don't think the cist was in the centre of one although there are examples of henges with later insertions of cists they are likely to have been separated by nearly a millenium .The internment was on a bed of pebbles and birch bark with significant amounts of quartz ,there was also quartz found around the head . The engraving on the capstone occupied a small arae but was very distinctive two bosses encircled with a meandering groove slightly more complex than an elongated S but not a typical spiral . There were also pick marks on the capstone .
There is no evidence of any megalithic monuments in the area and the site was in use until the medieval period so a comaprison with Stonehenge may not be that appropriate
George
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cropredy
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| Posted 18-08-2009 at 22:15
Tiompan,
Time will show the wiser.
I wish they would leave off with the HERO bit, it may have been the devil they buried?
I hoped that You may have visited the site, all the reports are vague, and no pictures of the carvings, perhaps they are saving them for a book?
All I can keep reporting is as I find, and quartz has a specific directional quality, as such each piece imo will have been carefully orientated, as will any wooden artifacts.
The stones forming the walls and the capstone will have directional qualities also, but only if You can detect them.
IMO, the cist will be precisely positioned directly upon a point where multiple lines create geometry that enables spirals to descend and emitt from that point, a comprehensive understanding of the passageway between life and death, with a return ticket as such is at the core of all of this.
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| Posted 19-08-2009 at 05:57
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On 2009-08-18 22:15, cropredy wrote:
Tiompan,
Time will show the wiser.
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Is there any point in asking for other peoples' thoughts then contradicting them once they submit them?
How many times have you reported that "Time does not exist"?So how will time prove or disprove anything in that case?
Oh sorry I see..it's another case of wait and see something will happen "soon"!!!
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On 2009-08-18 22:15, cropredy wrote:
I wish they would leave off with the HERO bit, it may have been the devil they buried?
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You are constantly saying that these sites are NOT burials and are therefore contradicting yourself
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On 2009-08-18 22:15, cropredy wrote:
Tiompan,
Time will show the wiser.
I wish they would leave off with the HERO bit, it may have been the devil they buried?
I hoped that You may have visited the site, all the reports are vague, and no pictures of the carvings, perhaps they are saving them for a book?
All I can keep reporting is as I find, and quartz has a specific directional quality, as such each piece imo will have been carefully orientated, as will any wooden artifacts.
The stones forming the walls and the capstone will have directional qualities also, but only if You can detect them.
IMO, the cist will be precisely positioned directly upon a point where multiple lines create geometry that enables spirals to descend and emitt from that point, a comprehensive understanding of the passageway between life and death, with a return ticket as such is at the core of all of this.
Kevin
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Kevin,
You'll find a picture of the carving here:
http://serf-dig.blogspot.com/
Oopps...should have checked it. They've obviously been told to take the picture off, one was there on Sat / Sun....sorry
[ This message was edited by: Rich32 on 2009-08-19 07:40 ]
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tiompan
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| Posted 19-08-2009 at 07:49
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On 2009-08-19 05:57, AlbertResonox wrote:
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On 2009-08-18 22:15, cropredy wrote:
Tiompan,
Time will show the wiser.
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Is there any point in asking for other peoples' thoughts then contradicting them once they submit them?
How many times have you reported that "Time does not exist"?So how will time prove or disprove anything in that case?
Oh sorry I see..it's another case of wait and see something will happen "soon"!!!
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On 2009-08-18 22:15, cropredy wrote:
I wish they would leave off with the HERO bit, it may have been the devil they buried?
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You are constantly saying that these sites are NOT burials and are therefore contradicting yourself
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Rich , I'll send you one .
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| Posted 19-08-2009 at 07:58
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On 2009-08-18 22:15, cropredy wrote:
Tiompan,
Time will show the wiser.
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Other than just quoting Fairport titles and old saws are you suggesting my reply had some mistakes in it . Of course we will have a beter understanding of the site in the future and may have some misconceptions ironed out through study and reflection .
I should have known it was a waste of time and won't do it again .
George
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cropredy
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| Posted 19-08-2009 at 08:13
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On 2009-08-19 05:57, AlbertResonox wrote:
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On 2009-08-18 22:15, cropredy wrote:
Tiompan,
Time will show the wiser.
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Is there any point in asking for other peoples' thoughts then contradicting them once they submit them?
How many times have you reported that "Time does not exist"?So how will time prove or disprove anything in that case?
Oh sorry I see..it's another case of wait and see something will happen "soon"!!!
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On 2009-08-18 22:15, cropredy wrote:
I wish they would leave off with the HERO bit, it may have been the devil they buried?
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You are constantly saying that these sites are NOT burials and are therefore contradicting yourself
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Have YOU any thoughts, or just snide remarks?
Everbody dies, and are buried in one fashion or another, the biological body then breaks down into it's base elements and becomes part of the planets elements.
it's the none physical that is involved , IMO.
Kevin
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| Posted 19-08-2009 at 08:24
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On 2009-08-19 08:13, cropredy wrote:
Have YOU any thoughts, or just snide remarks?
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I actually have a plethora of both....but my thoughts wouldn't be welcome it seems as you are just looking for an angle to cast doubt on them...so in the meantime I'll stick with what YOU regard as snide remarks as they show you up for what you are.
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On 2009-08-19 08:13, cropredy wrote:
Everbody dies, and are buried in one fashion or another, the biological body then breaks down into it's base elements and becomes part of the planets elements.
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And would this not account for there being no evidence of bodies in various cairns,tumuli,pyramids throughout the planet??
(Something you have countless times pointed out as proof that these are NOT burial sites!!)
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| Posted 19-08-2009 at 08:33
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On 2009-08-19 08:24, AlbertResonox wrote:
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On 2009-08-19 08:13, cropredy wrote:
Have YOU any thoughts, or just snide remarks?
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I actually have a plethora of both....but my thoughts wouldn't be welcome it seems as you are just looking for an angle to cast doubt on them...so in the meantime I'll stick with what YOU regard as snide remarks as they show you up for what you are.
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On 2009-08-19 08:13, cropredy wrote:
Everbody dies, and are buried in one fashion or another, the biological body then breaks down into it's base elements and becomes part of the planets elements.
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And would this not account for there being no evidence of bodies in various cairns,tumuli,pyramids throughout the planet??
(Something you have countless times pointed out as proof that these are NOT burial sites!!)
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And Just WHAT am I pray tell?
I would say that you have no thoughts, just constant snide remarks, as you have just posted again, no content, no contribution , just a constant attack upon the other poster.
I have tried from the moment I came upon here to suggest that all the megalithic sites are to do with life/death and re-incarnation, a continuum of existance.
That continuum operates upon a system, and the system is a matrix, a measurable matrix.
Kevin
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On 2009-08-19 08:33, cropredy wrote:
I have tried from the moment I came upon here to suggest that all the megalithic sites are to do with life/death and re-incarnation
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Sorry Kev,but I have never once felt that you have "SUGGESTED" anything...but have tried to belittle anyone who disagrees with the constantly changing theories you try to "ENFORCE" as facts!!
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| Posted 19-08-2009 at 18:48
Hi Kev
Let's go back to your original question.
Peter who I walk with, gets the same result at every burial site - he holds one rod in the air and it spins like a helicopter rotor.
Last week for the first time, we visited a dolmen together. He said (and demonstrated) that what he finds at dolmens are two sets of parallel intersecting lines - like the dolmen being at the centre of a game of noughts and crosses. He also did his helicopter thing in the chamber.
Peter is very matter-of-fact about these things and, whilst saying he is sure he detects the lines, is unsure as to what they are and why or how they were used.
Which leads me to ask, do you think the stones were erected on existing "power-lines" to augment them or did they create them?
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"he holds one rod in the air and it spins like a helicopter rotor.
Last week for the first time, we visited a dolmen together. He said (and demonstrated) that what he finds at dolmens are two sets of parallel intersecting lines -"
Jeez. Let's tear up a thousand years of progress and claim that someone who spins a dowsing rod like a helicopter is "demonstrating" two sets of parallel intersecting lines....
Close the schools and universities. Ditch scientific method. Follow the wierdos, all is solved at last.
Pitiful.
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| Posted 19-08-2009 at 19:54
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On 2009-08-19 19:12, Chyknel2 wrote:
"he holds one rod in the air and it spins like a helicopter rotor.
Last week for the first time, we visited a dolmen together. He said (and demonstrated) that what he finds at dolmens are two sets of parallel intersecting lines -"
Jeez. Let's tear up a thousand years of progress and claim that someone who spins a dowsing rod like a helicopter is "demonstrating" two sets of parallel intersecting lines....
Close the schools and universities. Ditch scientific method. Follow the wierdos, all is solved at last.
Pitiful.
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No C2, it's observational science.
I specifically said I didn't know what caused this, only that Peter has produced this effect on numerous occassions at known sites of "burial."
They knew where to bury people in those days.
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"No C2, it's observational science.
I specifically said I didn't know what caused this, only that Peter has produced this effect on numerous occassions at known sites of "burial."
So why say he "demonstrated" something when he patently didn't?
That's not observational science it's acting like a customer of Gypsey Rose Lee - and encouraging people to believe stuff without justification.
So it happens every time he goes to those places does it? Big deal. Nothing could be less like observational science and more like the end of the pier show.
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| Posted 19-08-2009 at 20:18
Sem,
Take no notice of cowards that hide behind masks.
The helicopter spinning of rods is caused at vortex points where the handler has little control of what they detect.
It6 does show such points, but if a finer control is obtained , then an ever more precise plan of the area can be achieved.
Acros the front stone line at chambers you do find a line that causes the rods to cross inwards in a line, I find this is also to be found central to the cursus area, if you google bloch walls, and watch youtube simulations on same you may grasp what is present.
There are opposing magnetic flows, they induce spirals between them.
If your friend marks the point where the rod spins, then circulates that point some ten feet away from it He should begin to be able to find the lines that bisect through the point.
it is too difficult to verbalise, but the vortex points are sited where multitudes of parallel lines are around that point, it leads to the flows having cross over points, similer to train track points that allow multiple spiral pathways to descend and emitt from that point, if You look for a flower of life pattern such as at abydos You will see a simplified drawing of what occurs.
This situation occurs everywhere, but is scalar, so the number of lines bisecting each point increases and decreases, the most I have counted is 55, the number varies in sequence matching the fibonnaci sequence, there may be higher number points around the globe.
Ask your friend to note which direction of spin, see if it changes .
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| Posted 19-08-2009 at 20:21
Dunno C2
He says it happens at certain types of site and I see the rods move in the way he has described.
He could be using sleight of hand to make his rods move. Maybe he's been conning me for two years to go for walks with him.
Obviously I'm a Patsy.
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| Posted 19-08-2009 at 21:34
Cropredy said:
"The helicopter spinning of rods is caused at vortex points where the handler has little control of what they detect."
Well if the handler isn't doing it then it would work if it was attached to the handler's top hat wouldn't it!
Oh no, I forgot. You're about to deliver another set of lies to escape from that aren't you.....
And so it goes on. Not a forum, a lying alley.
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On 2009-08-19 21:34, Chyknel2 wrote:
Cropredy said:
"The helicopter spinning of rods is caused at vortex points where the handler has little control of what they detect."
Well if the handler isn't doing it then it would work if it was attached to the handler's top hat wouldn't it!
Oh no, I forgot. You're about to deliver another set of lies to escape from that aren't you.....
And so it goes on. Not a forum, a lying alley.
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Which part of the forum rules don't You understand?
You know about not making personal and add hominen attacks on other posters.
You are so consumed in your own personal vendetta against Myself that you cannot see what a baffoon you are making of yourself, thou behind the mask of annonymous.
You are a troll, a venomous disruptive troll that does nothing but destroy this forum.
This thread is supposed to be about forteviot, have you any comments on their , or just more vile garbage?
http://www.treesforlife.org.uk/forest/mythfolk/birch.html
http://www.jjkent.com/articles/historical-uses-quartz.htm
Kevin
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| Posted 19-08-2009 at 21:53
Hi C2
You could check my quote on the BA camera forum, via a man studying geophysics.
Until you can produce something from your own shortened intellect, LAY OFF.
If you really want to argue about megaliths, come on.
Looking forward
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