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Secrets Of Stonehenge Unlocked?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/10/earlyshow/main4005923.shtml
(CBS) For centuries, man has speculated about the ring of giant stones on Salisbury Plain in England known as Stonehenge.
Who built it? Why? How did they get the stones there to begin with?
Theories have ranged from Stonehenge being a clock, to a calendar, even a sacrificial altar.
The Druids and Greeks have been mentioned as possible builders. Then again, so have aliens from UFOs, and Atlanteans.
But a new excavation at the site, led by Britain's Falmouth University, has led to yet another theory. Now, archaeologists at Stonehenge, such as Andrew Fitzpatrick of Wessex Archaeology, say the 4,000-plus-year-old wonder may actually have been --
"Who built it?"
South Wales Coalfield miners from South Wales.
"Why?"
Stonehenge was a Coal Prospect that went Bust, afterwards it became The First Mining College, it saved digging further Coal Prospects eastward, all of which would have been Dusters.
"How did they get the stones there to begin with?"
1) Animal Skins bagged the South Wales "Whitestone" rock.
2) Pine Timbers rolled the South Wales "Cosheston" rock.
3) Pine Timbers rolled the South Wales "Bluestone" rock.
4) Oak Timbers rolled the Marlborough Downs "Sarsen" rock.
White Chalk looks like Whitestone, that is why the College was built, Sarsen area having no Coal either. Mesolithic and Neolithic hot Coal Exploration Play was to the west in a North-South Trend.
Denke, G.W. 1973. "Stonehenge Phase I: An Openpit Coalfield Model; The First Geologic Mining School (Indiana University of Pennsylvania) GDG, 73; 1-56.
Taught geology.
White Chalk - The outcrop sedimentary rock of Stonehenge is Late Cretaceous Period, Santonian Age, calcium carbonate. Late Cretaceous Period outcrop sedimentary rock is the in situ construction material used by the Stonehenge builders. This material is approximately 85 million years old. This stone is called Seaford Chalk Formation rock. It is from Stonehenge Ditch Mining area.
3100 BC
Whitestone - The oldest limestone sedimentary rock of Stonehenge is Early Carboniferous (Mississippian) Period, Arundian Age, calcium carbonate. Early Carboniferous Period limestone sedimentary rock is the first (1st) construction material imported by the Stonehenge builders. This material is approximately 340 million years old. This stone is called High Tor (Birnbeck) Limestone Formation rock. It is from South Wales Coalfield area.
3000 BC
Cosheston - The oldest sandstone sedimentary rock of Stonehenge is Devonian Period micaceous silicate. Devonian Period sandstone sedimentary rock is the second (2nd) construction material imported by the Stonehenge builders. This material is approximately 408 million years old. This stone is called Senni Beds (Old Red Sandstone) Formation rock. It is from South Wales Coalfield area.
2600 BC
Bluestone - The volcanic rock (oldest geologically) of Stonehenge is Ordovician Period intrusive igneous diabase (dolerite) and extrusive igneous felsite (rhyolite) and tuff (basic). Ordovician Period igneous rock is the third (3rd) construction material imported by the Stonehenge builders. This material is approximately 470 million years old. This stone is called Ordovician Volcanic rock. It is from South Wales Coalfield area.
2200 BC
Sarsen - The youngest sandstone sedimentary rock of Stonehenge is Oligocene-Miocene (Tertiary) Period silicate. Oligocene-Miocene Period sandstone sedimentary rock is the fourth (4th) construction material imported by the Stonehenge builders. This material is approximately 24 million years old. This stone is called Reading Formation rock. It is from Marlborough Downs Mining area.
Geology taught.
http://www.geology.19thcenturyscience.org/books/1878-Ramsay-Geology/text-ocr/text/figs-100-jpg/GeoMap-400.jpg
Evidence that Coal was burned in the Paleolithic, Mesolithic, and Neolithic exists at every Sacred Site where Coal outcrops. Bottom ash physically, mineralogically, and chemically verified.
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Stonehenge III Iron Teeth
NOW THAT Royal Society (RS) Fellow of Great Britain of the United Kingdom (UK) Doctor Geoffrey Wainwright, archaeologist and RS Fellow UK Doctor Timothy Darvill, archaeologist have verified German Society (GS) Fellow of Great Kingdom of the Tejas, Caddo confederacy (US) Doctor Garry Denke (1622-1699) historian, antiquarian, and dentist's 2nd iron tooth of three (3) broken off teeth from his Ten Iron Horned Hollow Stem Auger Core Drill of 1656 as 'a tooth made of iron', by metallurgy; and now that RS Fellow UK Doctor Geoffrey Wainwright, archaeologist and RS Fellow UK Doctor Timothy Darvill, archaeologist have confirmed GS Fellow US Doctor Garry Denke, dentist's Carboniferous Whitestone trench packed Double Bluestone Horseshoe Ordovician Volcanic rock as 'a glacial erratic from South Wales Coalfield Seven Sisters mining area', by palynology; both reaffirming GS Fellow US Doctor Garry Denke, dentist's Ten Iron Horned Hollow Stem Auger Core Drill at Stonehenge in the Spring of '56 (says 20th-21st June 1656 here): HERE ARE more geological, paleontological, and geophysical published Official Public (Deed) Records publicated papers from their reading list, should any dental technician or professional want to check-up the good Doctor's teeth.
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Garry_Denke&oldid=144604503#Dr._Garry_Whilhelm_Denke
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Garry_Denke&oldid=148729699#Dr._Garry_Whilhelm_Denke.2C_Sr.
Doctor Garry Whilhelm Denke, Sr. (b. April 19, 1622; d. February 19, 1699) was a German historian, antiquarian and dentist. He was born in Baden, trained at Schwarzwald School, Black Forest, in metal and wood dentistry. Dr. Denke is best known for his Stonehenge Heelstone flying eagle 1656 hollow stem auger core of Cartridge brass (70% Cu; 30% Zn) and Live oak.
After serving in the Thirty Years' War, he collected South Namur Waulsort and South Wales Coalfield white stone (Carboniferous) and coal stone from Stonehenge. Devoutly Catholic, Dr. Denke set out for Jamestown in the year 1666, was German Church historian and made Doctor by Sir William Berkeley governor dentist. He performed Appomattox Indian dentistry.
In 1676 Virginia Civil War, Dr. Denke opossumed Bacon's Rebellion and settled at Hell's Gate, Brazos River South Wall, Great Kingdom of the Tejas, Caddo confederacy. The Doctor's elder Waulsort and Wales white stone collection, his crude biology (paleontology) and hollow stem auger core drill are housed at Caddo, near Breckenridge, Stephens County, Texas.
Live oak (Quercus virginiana), Virginia algonquian (Didelphis virginiana)
This German biographical article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Garry_Denke&oldid=144604503#Heelstone_Bibliography
Heelstone Bibliography
1) Denke, G.W. 1973. Stonehenge Phase I: An Openpit Coalfield Model; The First Geologic Mining School. (Indiana University of Pennsylvania) GDG, 73: 1-56.
2) Denke, G.W. 1975. Invertibrate Paleontology of the High Tor Limestone (Lower Carboniferous) and the Upper Senonian Chalk (Late Cretaceous) of Stonehenge. (Arizona State University) GDG, 75: 1-7.
3) Denke, G.W. 1977. Possible Source Areas of the High Tor Limestone (Early Mississippian) Fill of the Aubrey Holes and Heel Stone Ditch in Europe. (Arizona State University) GDG, 77: 1-24.
4) Beus, S.S. 1984. Fossil Associations in the High Tor Limestone (Lower Carboniferous) of South Wales. (Northern Arizona University) Journal of Paleontology, 58: 3; 651-667.
5) Denke, G.W. 1984. Mid-Dinantian (Waulsortian Facies) High Tor Limestone: The First Stones Transported to Stonehenge from the South Wales Coast. (Arizona State University) GDG, 84: 1-4.
6) Denke, G. 1984. Magnetic and Electromagnetic Surveys at Heelstone, Stonehenge, United Kingdom. (Indiana University of Pennsylvania) GDG, 84: 5-42.
7) Lees, A. and Miller, J. 1985. Facies variatian in Waulsortian buildups, Part 2; Mid-Dinantian buildups from Europe and North America. (Revised) Geological Journal, 20: 159-180.
8) Geologist, Denke, G. 1986. The Paleontology of Stonehenge, England. (Arizona State University) GDG, 86: 1-3. (State of Texas) County of Stonewall, Book 393; 848-853.
www.archaeology.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=402&Itemid=26
First & Third Iron Teeth
German Society (GS) Fellow of Great Kingdom of the Tejas, Caddo confederacy (US) Doctor Garry Denke (1622-1699) historian, antiquarian, and dentist's 1st iron tooth of three (3) broken off teeth from his Ten Iron Horned Hollow Stem Auger Core Drill of 1656 was discovered by Royal Society (RS) Fellow of Great Britain of the United Kingdom (UK) Doctor William Gowland (1842-1922) chemist, metallurgist, and mining engineer's Stonehenge mine Stone 56' metallurgy in the Summer of '01 (says 20th-21st June 1901 here). The 3rd iron tooth of Doctor Garry Denke, dentist's three (3) missing teeth from his Ten Iron Horned Hollow Stem Auger Core Drill of 1656 snapped off the artefact sampling tool under Stonehenge Heel Stone flying eagle while penetrating hard Cartridge brass (70% Cu; 30% Zn) and Live oak (Quercus virginiana) at a depth of eight feet (8 ft, 2.4m) below ground level. The good Doctor's Diary of '56 says that is where it is.
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Garry_Denke&oldid=148728869
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Garry_Denke&oldid=148729699
Archaeology is a fascinating subject. Enjoy.
Garry Denke
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Evidence that Coal was burned in the Paleolithic, Mesolithic, and Neolithic exists at every Sacred Site where Coal outcrops. Bottom ash physically, mineralogically, and chemically verified.
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Nope it doesn't you've just made this last bit up haven't you? Charcoal is found on prehistoric sites not coal.
Plus Tim and Geoff haven't proved the geology on Wiltshire Plain its been mapped for years.
Add to that none of the publications you claim actually exist because you just made them up as well.
Its really quite easy to go to the Journal of Paleontology and search you know. Perhaps if you are going to make up publications in future you should do a bit more research because the 1984 JoP is issue 141 and above so your 58 was way out.
I'm bored now 
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"I'm bored now"
Me too!
Unless it's another of Mr.G Denke's spoofs. It was something to do with teeth last time wasn't it? Don't let incontrovertible facts and evidence against spoil a good(?) story.
Jim.
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Its either teeth or a footbal stadium or the burial site of Moses.
Denke was nominated as "Most Bizarre Member" of the Unexplaned Mysteries Forum in 2005.
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=42820&pid=680660&mode=threaded&start=
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Garry
Living in South Wales and having been interested in it's history for 30+yrs, I have never come across a reference to coal-mining in pre-historic times. Even the ex-miners I know (and there are quite a few) never talk of ancient mines. This contrasts with two Cornishmen I am acquainted with who have worked in the Tin Mines. Both have stories to tell that they swear go back thousands of years.
What is your evidence for pre-historic coal mining in Wales?
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Hello To All
Other than these Homo erectus made 800,000-year-old Acheulean hand-axes recovered from Pembrokeshire Coalfield opencast anthracite bottom ash and from South Wales Coalfield opencast bituminous bottom ash here at DENOCO INC laboratories, we have no evidence; Save and Except for: these Homo erectus burnt 800,000-year-old Crosskeys Coal fly-ashes sampled from that certain Pontycymer Class C - Class F cave discovered by Dr. Garry Denke (1622-1699) the German historian, antiquarian and dentist in 1656. And these anthracite and bituminous Coal cinders (bottom ashes) of course. Upon reprinting of my first paper, "Stonehenge Phase I: An Openpit Coalfield Model; The First Geologic Mining School (Indiana University of Pennsylvania) GDG, 73: 1-56", all three locations will be known by the GPS update and then others may recover more.
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Mr.Denke's posts remind me of those computer programs that let you type in a few random words and it comes up with things like "Swearing in Shakesperian" which almost make sense.... but not quite!
(Reminds me of a couple of other posts here  )
I wonder if he is a fan of Jabberwocky?
Lewis Carroll
'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree.
And stood awhile in thought.
And as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came wiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.
"And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!"
He chortled in his joy.
'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
Jim.
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Jimit,
I am a fan of Jabberwocky.
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Carroll
A stunning mathmatician, who clearly had thought out many things, but the TIME he was captured in , was not the TIME to talk of quantum maths, hence he encoded it in Jabberwocky , and the Alice stories.
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In John Gribbin's book "In search of Shrodinger's cat" (Quantum Physics and Reality), he suggests that we abandon all of the normal terms used to "describe" what goes on inside the atom. Orbit, spin, position, momentum, particle, wave etc. are not the same in the atomic world.
Gribbin's idea is that we substitute Jabberwocky terms instead......"Eight slithy toves gyre and gimbal in the oxygen wabe; seven in nitrogen....if one of its toves escapes, oxygen will be masquerading in a garb properly belonging to nitrogen...."
This digression is only meant for those who believe in real scientific research, done over the last 300 years by the greatest minds the planet has seen .
Those who want to believe in the "Luminiferous AEther" or "plasma" which is not several million degrees C, are welcome to their ideas BUT until they come up with discoveries and inventions as useful as the mobile phone, TV, GPS, the PC, medicines that work, car technology, modern fabrics, in fact nearly everything you can see in the room around you, I will prefer to stick to modern on-going science.
Jim.
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Nope it doesn't you've just made this last bit up haven't you? Charcoal is found on prehistoric sites not coal.
Plus Tim and Geoff haven't proved the geology on Wiltshire Plain its been mapped for years.
Add to that none of the publications you claim actually exist because you just made them up as well.
Its really quite easy to go to the Journal of Paleontology and search you know. Perhaps if you are going to make up publications in future you should do a bit more research because the 1984 JoP is issue 141 and above so your 58 was way out.
I'm bored now
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No the last bit is not made up.
GPS coordinates now in 1973 reprinted paper Addendum.
Update links in deleted posts.
http://jpaleontol.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/content/abstract/58/3/651
http://www.jstor.org/pss/1304908
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Nice one Jimit
Have you heard Donovan's version of Jabberwocky from HMS Donovan? It's a double album of children's and nonsense rhymes put to music, including such classics as "The Owl & the Pusseycat," Wynken, Blynken & Nod" and my favourite "The Walrus and the Carpenter."
I don't know if it's available but if it is, Garry should buy a copy and learn something.
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The Ancient Mines Coal
You just cannot beat the Ancient way of coal mining in 800,000 BC - 100,000 BC, living in a virgin coal seam is definitely a lot of work. The Ancient ignited the surface coal seam and mined all night long, while asleep. Warm and cozy by the fire, the Ancient surface coal mined itself. Yes indeed the Ancient coal mining operations were very time consuming. The Ancient hunted for food all day long, just to return to a hot continuous fire, as the coal mines. Well go ahead and yawn home builder, while sleeping, the Ancient coal mines a home heated cave.
NW to SE
Pembrokeshire Coalfield -> South Wales Coalfield -> Bristol Coalfield -> Salisbury Plain
Fields Map
Coalfield -> 40 miles -> Coalfield -> 40 miles -> Coalfield -> 40 miles -> Prospect Area
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800,000 BC Coalfield -> 800,000 BC Coalfield -> 100,000 BC Coalfield -> Stonehenge
Stonehenge Coal Trend
Denke is saying that Ancient Britain's oldest 3 coalfields are spaced 40 miles apart, from NW to SE; first Pembrokeshire, second South Wales, third Bristol. The first (anthracite) and second (bituminous) were discovered by Homo erectus 800 kya, the third (bituminous) by Neanderthal 100 kya; Denke's hand-axes, coal cinders and fly-ashes dated. Later, after the extinction of Homo erectus and Neanderthal, the Homo sapiens explored Salisbury Plain for coal; first 10 kya (carpark tests), then 5 kya (henge ditches). Denke is saying these oldest 3 coalfields of Ancient Britain being aligned and spaced 40 miles apart is what caused Salisbury Plain coal exploration. Why? Because that area is 40 miles SE of Bristol in the surface coal trend. The Ancient observation of that NW to SE trend direction and equally spaced distance caused Woodhenge, Durrington Walls, Stonehenge, Avebury Henges, etc spudding 5 kya by Homo sapiens in search of a fourth coalfield. After a persistent effort none of these test ditches yielded any coal, and according to Denke, they discovered the reason why. The "white stone" fossils encircling (coal bearing limestone) the oldest 3 coal fields were different than the "white stone" fossils in Salisbury Plain (non-coal bearing chalk). Denke is saying that tons of this encircled limestone from the oldest 3 coalfields were brought to Stonehenge for schooling Ancient Britain holdout wildcatters. Stonehenge was chosen as the school's site because it was unoccupied by Homo sapiens and an athletic field was already there. Later, 'higher education' rocks from around Ancient Britain's first and second coalfields, Pembrokeshire and South Wales, were brought as geology class exhibits for holdout extremists. Parents and teachers honoured Ancient Welsh coal miners on Saturdays, student football and athletics played on Sundays. Personally, my thought on this is that Denke was definitely insane, for as everybody knows, a school never has an athletic field. [Doctor Garry Whilhelm Denke (1622-1699) Diary (Summer, 1656) -descendant interpretation-]
Three (3) Coal Fields
Ancient Britain's oldest 3 coalfields' surface 40 miles apart; from NW to SE -> Pembrokeshire -> 40 miles -> South Wales -> 40 miles -> Bristol -> 40 miles -> Salisbury Plain -> where coal should have been present. The Ancient preferred using the 3 coalfields' fuel between the Ice Ages, and the Ancient survived because of the 3 coalfields' fuel during the Ice Ages.
Three (3) Test Holes
Salisbury Plain Prospect Area was first tested in 8,000 BC by Homo sapiens spudding 3 coal exploratory holes 40 miles SE of the Neanderthal Bristol Coalfield. They found no coal in the top layer "white stone", and they found no coal in the formation "white stone". 3 Pine Timbers from the 3 acidic soil NW coalfields were set in the 3 coal duster holes, bust marked.
...they rotted...
Coal exploration for Ancient Britain's preferred fuel in Salisbury Plain re-emerged around 5,000 years later, after 3 coal prospect bust holes' 3 pine timbers from the 3 surface coalfields had rotted. Homo sapiens sapiens re-surveyed -> Pembrokeshire -> 40 miles -> South Wales -> 40 miles -> Bristol -> 40 miles -> Salisbury Plain -> where coal was predicted to be.
Explored, Explored, Explored, Explored, etc
...they stoned...
Paleolithic 800,000-year-old Acheulian hand-axes from Homo erectus' opencast Pembrokeshire Coalfield anthracite coal cinders and South Wales Coalfield bituminous bottom ashes indicate pre-Neanderthal coal mining.
Homo erectus burnt 800,000-year-old Crosskeys Coal fly-ashes sampled from a Pontycymer Class C - Class F bituminous South Wales Coalfield mined Paleolithic cave dated 700,000 years previous to 100,000 years BC.
The German historian, antiquarian, and dentist, Doctor Garry Whilhelm Denke (1622-1699), recovered the 800,000-year-old Acheulian hand-axes and sampled the 800,000-year-old Crosskeys Coal fly-ashes in 1656.
Neanderthal followed NW to SE anthracite Pembrokeshire Coalfield - bituminous South Wales Coalfield trend to Paleolithic bituminous Bristol Coalfield discovery causing Homo sapiens' Mesolithic dug carpark 3 coal dusters.
Rest simple History, under the Heelstone.
Survived the Ice Ages,
Garry Denke
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No the last bit is not made up.
GPS coordinates now in 1973 reprinted paper Addendum.
Update links in deleted posts.
http://jpaleontol.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/content/abstract/58/3/651
http://www.jstor.org/pss/1304908
Garry Denke
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Both those papers are describing certain fossil species discovered in a Limestone rock formation. They have nothing to do with late Neolithic archaeology and are concerned with creatures living in the Jurrasic period many mant millions of years before Stonehenge (or even humans come to that).
The bits you have made up are all the publications you list, none of which exists. Also the bit about finding coal waste on prehistoric sites and in fact everything apart from th eexistance of those two web links neither of which have anything to to with Stonehenge.
Why are you talking about yourself in third person? The only other American I know of with the same habit was Nixon!
Just stop posting utter rubbish which are either complete lies or unconnected gibberish.
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Karloff,
You are assuming all you are TOLD to fact.
You assume you know the age of a substance?
Because you have been TOLD this is a method of dating.
don't just repeat all you are TOLD, otherwise it will sound like you are a parrot.
I bet you are an annoyed little parrot?
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There was a little parrot sitting in the trees around the office car park yesterday. Beautiful Plumage. I reckon it would make more sense than most of the stuff here, so long as its not now pushing up the daisies or gone to join the choir invisible....
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On 2008-04-17 23:11, cropredy wrote:
Karloff,
You are assuming all you are TOLD to fact.
You assume you know the age of a substance?
Because you have been TOLD this is a method of dating.
don't just repeat all you are TOLD, otherwise it will sound like you are a parrot.
I bet you are an annoyed little parrot?
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I see you enjoy thinking you have annoyed, that's a sign of a really profound personality. I'm sorry, but you couldn't annoy me if you tried. I do however, find your arrogance irritating.
As I said before I don't ASSUME anything, I gather the actual data and then test it. I look at evidence such as stratigraphy (the way one layer of soil/cultural material lies above another layer meaning the former must be earlier that the overlying layer). This is critical analysis based on the actual physical presence of material. No assumption except that for a layer to placed on top of another layer the bottom layer must have been there first.
You see its not me that blindly accepts things its you. You are just very selective about what you are prepared to believe. You're very much like christians who refuse to accept evolution and claim the earth is only 6000 years old because the bible seems to suggest that. All other evidence to the contrary is ignored or (note the similarities) dismissed as being false and "blinkered" by anti-god science.
But hey, keep in with the new age glastonbury types with your special powers because many of them do just ACCEPT what they are TOLD by people like you and if that's the only crowd you can impress, then whatever floats your boat. Of course to me and other people who do not just accept claims of superior powers, you will always be that bad speller on the megalithic portal with ego issues who could only ever post about how he knew everything because the rest of us were unable to comprehend his special insights.
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Karloff,
There you go again assuming , you declare how I feel , sorry your wrong.
I am not trying to impress anyone, i want to know what I am detecting.
You declare it nonsense, and that I am nothing other than a bad speller on the portal.
I am not prepared to believe anything I am told, by anyone.
Basically I view the whole universe with a clean canvass, and am looking and investigating how it all fits together.
They do not know what time is, FACT.
They do not know what gravity is,Fact.
they do not know what light is,Fact.
They do not know what makes us alive,Fact.
It is all assumption and best guesswork.
You cannot declare the age of anything if you have no evidence of what time is.
This planet may well undergo massive alterations on a cyclable basis that EXPERTS are declaring as millions of years.
I was in exactly your position two and a half years ago, believing that all of the countless experts in all fields must have a good grasp of what they are declaring, they haven't, it all speculation and little clubs of people declaring themselves experts.
I meet many now , and try to discuss things with them, always the same aggression and self importance declares itself, and that I clearly have not learn't anything from other like experts.
Thank goodness I haven't been brainwashed .
All of these experts, and not a single blind silly reason for the megaliths can be confirmed, all that is offered are the chicken scratching finds of burials and burn't embers.
I love to see the results of archaeology studies, to see the origonal constructions as best identified and drawn out as such, I am hunter by nature and would have taken to that like a duck to water, and would have fallen in with all the learned proffesors and experts methods, great job.
But I am sorry, they are totally blind to all the relevant electrical conditions about them, they scoff and laugh at any suggestion of such.
That is their built up idea of importance overruling any investigations, its not been anything they have learn't or seen teached, so it can't exist, its all in my mind, no it isn't.
I am going off into the future investigations of the electric universe with free thinking people who are willing to look afresh at all we have been brainwashed by.
the megalithic world is simply full of those almost set in stone, unwilling to think, so totally ARROGANT, that it is beyong belief.
Kevin
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| Posted 18-04-2008 at 16:32
Hi
So you intend to explain the universe in a new way no-one else has ever thought of, oh! except some other people also obsessed with dowsing and alternative theories concerned with power matrices who have pseudo-scientific websites (normally based in the US). Kind of similar to the ideas which have been put forward since the 1960's and are found in books in Glastonbury shops.
"All of these experts, and not a single blind silly reason for the megaliths can be confirmed, all that is offered are the chicken scratching finds of burials and burn't embers."
You haven't bothered reading anything anybody has written about monuments in the last twenty years have you? If you had you would know that patterns relating to the distribution and deposition of certain animal bones and artefacts have been recorded which mirror the environment these monuments were constructed in. You would know that Bayesian statistics have really tightened up the chronologies and there is a much greater understanding about when these monuments were constructed. You would also know about their positioning within landscapes, their relationship to rivers. You would know about the ideas put forward concerning social change and how monuments reflect this. You might have even found out that most people selected for Neolithic chambered tombs have sustained major trauma which shows they are specially selected individuals. You would know that henge monuments fist appear in Orkney and that the pottery associated with them spread down the east coast of Britain showing a gradual acculturation of a new idea which henges are the most preserved expression. You wouldn't keep banging on about how little is known!
Frankly its amazing we know so much about monuments built over 3,000 years ago by people with no writing tradition. Its only through painstaking recovery of data we know so much. Of course archaeology can only ever recover non-perishable material so it can't answer all the questions. It does however, produce information instead of waffle about "reverse flows" which are meaningless and don't explain anything.
Of course according to you its easy isn't it? You think monuments were placed because of some huge energy grid undetectable except by special people like you. There you go there's the "confirmed" Cropredy explanation.
Hell, is shouldn't have bothered studying, excavating, processing all these years I should have just asked Kevin 'cus he knows the secrets of the megaliths!
You ask for confirmation about why megaliths were built, well a megalith is a "big stone" you idiot so your statement doesn't even make sense!
Perhaps what you mean is megalithic sites, a general term for a period when large stones played a significant part in many monuments. So it primarily refers to the Neolithic and Early Bronze Ages.
As for "confirmation" you truly fail to understand that reason cannot be determined from studies. Only the people who built them will ever truly know why. Yet again you show your inflated opinion of yourself implying you will tell us why people thousands of years ago built some monuments by studying the "electrical universe". Of course none of you so-called free thinking is based on tired old hippy, crystal consciousness nonsense, no you are so special you just need some dowsing rods!
Einstein must be turning in his grave with worry that you're about to prove him so wrong by showing us all how you can explain the unexplainable and reveal the deepest secret mysteries of the stones.. whooo...
Or is it going to be like when I asked you when all the special knowledge you go on about got lost? Or about how you dowse special patterns in mole burrows? Are you just going to change the subject and then wobble on about plasma rather than just admit you only have half-baked notions and don't even understand what your going on about most of the time?
Oh, I noticed you conveniently ignored my question about how it is that you help protect, preserve and promote these monuments and sites after you slagged off those people who "take care of them". Or is your mere presence enough to save these sites, oh great sage of the stones?
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| Posted 18-04-2008 at 18:27
Karloff, sweety,
"YOU IDIOT"
is a step too far.
I nearly fell asleep reading your post, one thing needs a comment though.
Many bodies ,as you state are found with head damage, ever wondered WHY?
You say special people.
What if they desired to go, maybe cancer or such?
The present pain relief masks the reality of some deaths.
I have not slagged off as you wrongly again relate to me anyone who looks after or cares for sites.
I think the sites are hardly looked after except for by a few dedicated people, most are looked upon as a curiosity .
I consider the method of revealing the reason for construction of the just big stones, is to comprehend what I consider is the condition relative to their position and its interaction/s with just big stones, and the then manipulation of the condition and relevant substance upon the condition field/s.
I say again, "YOU IDIOT" is stepping over a ledge of debate into personal abuse, you need to get a grip, and ponder what is driving this nonesensical rant.
I consider you feel vunerable to something that you have no idea about, and would rather ridicule or burn the witch than try and comprehend creation.
Why you have such a thing about Glastonbury and those who live there is beyond me, I have been once in my life, and that was to meet Paul, I did wander about the tor, and marvelled at it, and of course did my usual, 55 leylines meet in the centre of the tower, and the flows of STUFF follow a spiral route down the tor to a well, and back up again, it takes some balance to follow it about the hill.
They are not just big stones as you ascribe to them, they are very carefully selected stones that play a variety of differing interactions with STUFF, I bother to check these materials, and then compare how they are at present interacting and manipulating STUFF.
I have every right to express these findings and do so down here in a sort of set aside area , that keeps us safe from those who consider themselves such experts and correct little girls and boys, and who do not like alternative ideas as to their downloaded so called learned knowledge.
To KNOW is different to that which is learn't and force fed time after time and stated as truth.
To know needs a very different approach.
I happen to KNOW things that are not taught, I suspect that is intentional to veil the masses and keep them from not KNOWING.
We are all one, in a sea of energy, I intend to KNOW this sea and learn how to swim in itagain.
You need to get a grip.
kevin
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