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Runemage
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|  Posted 16-06-2012 at 01:40
Many thanks to Woadrunner for contacting us with this information.
The landowner has suddenly decided to block all access to the Northern henge and there doesn't seem to be anyone willing to take this on board.
More details on the sitepage.
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=a312&file=index&do=showpic&pid=90226
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Equinox
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| Posted 24-06-2012 at 20:36
In 1998 a stewardship agreement was put in place at the two southernmost henges. This also included the area between the three. This did not, unfortunately include the northernmost henge
The N Yorks County Council Public Consultation Draft 'Thornborough Henges Conservation Plan' has a section on p94 on Integrated Land Management. This recommended conversion from arable farming to pasture throughout the plan area:- where fields have been deep ploughed the archaeology can be damaged to a depth of 1/3 m, or more in some cases. Cattle do less damage except maybe to the topsoil.
The northern henge is under woodland and my guess is that cattle and trees would do less damage than the ploughing and quarrying gravel from the central henge - or bulldozing the earthworks in the southern henge, as actually happened!
The conservation plan is a fine and reasoned document and can be d/l from the following link
http://www.northyorks.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=403&p=0
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Blingo_von_Trumpenstein
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| Posted 25-06-2012 at 17:50
I'm up for some protest/campaigning on this one. We could organise a mass 'trespass' perhaps. Letters and emails need to be sent to everyone you can think of (please post any contacts here). Contact the 'land owner' (I believe we all own such places) and demand his release of our heritage.
I hereby declare war on him from the Brigantes Nation. Hail Brigantia.
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Runemage
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| Posted 26-06-2012 at 16:14
Do Tarmac own it and let it to the farmer? Is it under the protection of EH or similar? It's important to establish ownership otherwise any attempts are going to be buck-passed from pillar to post and any campaign needs to be focused towards the right recipient(s) e.g. do Tarmac own it and let it to the farmer?
For years, George Chaplin was at the forefront of the Thornborough campaign to save the archaeology on the land surrounding the henges and he'd know more than anyone who to contact for the most impact. He posted here under the name Venutius but I've not seen him on the Portal for quite a while. He or someone still connected with the Henges may be able to save you a lot of time and effort, here are a couple of links to start you off
http://www.friendsofthornborough.org.uk/contents.htm
http://www.thornboroughheritagetrust.org/
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Andy B
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| Posted 26-06-2012 at 20:58
Worth noting that the Thornborough Heritage Trust Membership is open and free to all.
Trust Members are encouraged to play an active role and will be consulted about the organisation's development. Membership will entitle you to participate in events like archaeological tours, talks and artefact-handling workshops. Further details of our programme of events can be found at Events and Projects.
Contact them if you want to register as a Member.
http://www.thornboroughheritagetrust.org/contact-us.php
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Blingo_von_Trumpenstein
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| Posted 17-10-2012 at 18:49
No response from English heritage in Yorkshire. Can you all email them please and tell them about our concerns of access and cow damage. Hundreds of emails will prompt action.
yorkshire@english-heritage.org.uk
Also are there any legal eagles on the Portal? Time for legal action I reckon . . .
I also need to discover the name of the 'landowner'.
I've played with the land registry but not overly clear . . .
Come on folks let's claim our heritage back.
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PeteG
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| Posted 17-10-2012 at 19:13
EH are probably waiting for the results of the Priddy case which is due on the 26th of October.
Once sentence is passed on Mr Penny for the destruction of part of the Priddy henge EH will have a clearer idea of what they can and can't do legally to other landowners with henges on their land.
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Blingo_von_Trumpenstein
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| Posted 17-10-2012 at 19:43
Thanks for the thought Pete. To be fair I may also be on an English Heritage blacklist !!
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PeteG
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| Posted 17-10-2012 at 20:14
You can usually get a reply from EH if you CC lots of others into the email.
Local and County archaeo's, Local MP, newspapers etc etc.
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Runemage
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| Posted 18-10-2012 at 12:59
I think Pete has a good point about waiting until after the Priddy decision has been made.
Also, EH don't have the reputation of being the most up-to-date organisation therefore, for effective communication, I'd suggest anyone who wants to protest or to draw their attention to the latest actions at the Northern Henge should put their points in writing, snailmail variety.
Put yourselves in their place, what would you give more credence to, an email from pixiemoonbeamstar@hotmail.com or a nicely presented letter from J.B. Smith at 123 High Street in a town whose name you've heard of ?
Contact the Yorkshire Office
Covering: East Riding of Yorkshire, North East Lincolnshire, North Lincolnshire, North Yorkshire, South Yorkshire, West Yorkshire.
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English Heritage
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York YO1 6WP
Telephone: 01904 601901 Fax: 01904 601999
Email: yorkshire@english-heritage.org.uk
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On 2012-10-17 18:49, Blingo_von_Trumpenstein wrote:
No response from English heritage in Yorkshire. Can you all email them please and tell them about our concerns of access and cow damage. Hundreds of emails will prompt action.
yorkshire@english-heritage.org.uk
Also are there any legal eagles on the Portal? Time for legal action I reckon . . .
I also need to discover the name of the 'landowner'.
I've played with the land registry but not overly clear . . .
Come on folks let's claim our heritage back.
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| Posted 18-10-2012 at 13:52
FWIW I've always found ringing English Heritage to be much more effective than emailing them.
Unfortunately whilst public access is morally right, its not legally enforceable so English Heritage won't do a thing about that. However they have to care by law about damage through neglect by a landowner to a scheduled monument. So if anyone rings them, mention that!
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Blingo_von_Trumpenstein
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| Posted 18-10-2012 at 19:12
Reply from EH North Yorks (Neil Redfern). Sounds as though they are on the case.
"We are very aware of the concerns you set out about the central henge at Thornborough and we are in discussions with the owners about this issue and how it can be resolved.
As you know it is one of a number of complex issues at Thornborough. Please rest assured we are taking what steps we can to see the current issues addressed and long-term future of the henges secured."
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Runemage
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| Posted 18-10-2012 at 21:34
Thanks Blingo, that has to be good news 
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Feanor
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| Posted 19-10-2012 at 13:02
I knew PixieMoonBeam.
PixieMoonBeam was a friend of mine.
Rune ...
You're no PixieMoonBeam.
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