On 2013-03-15 06:30, vlad wrote:
Still some notes. If you are interested in "devolution" of dowsing, here are some initial informations : -

Probably some 15 per cent of all dowsers use no external tools but parts of own body only. Here`s an initial exercise. Stand in front of a "line" you use for testing your tools. Put tools aside. Straighten your arm so that your underarm crosses the
line. Move your underarm to and fro like a saw across the line and concentrate on feeling of an energy surge, which accompanies the movement. Then, try to decide which side of the borderline is yin and which is yang. Use possibly other parts of your body as comparing standards to do that. (Front is yin, back is yang, etc.)

Yes; it`s about Chinese geomancy exercises. Google for "correspondence Man-Cosmos" and collect some taoist sources to study the topic. When I`m back, we can discuss your results.

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On 2013-03-14 21:06, vlad wrote:
Thanks for your feedback but sorry, Tom; I`m just leaving for the continent to spend Easter with my friends and family there. Maybe we `ll meet some other time.

On 2013-03-14 18:31, tiompan wrote:

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On 2013-03-14 17:54, ledgehammer wrote: Quote: On 2013-03-12 23:40, tiompan wrote: Hello Tom , long time no hear from . would you mind answering a question please . If I dowse in my garden concentrating on the thought of water and at certain points the rods close and when these points are plotted they prove to be in a roughly straight line should I believe that I have discovered anything ? is it likely to be water ? and if so why should I believe that ? George [ This message was edited by: tiompan on 2013-03-12 23:41 ] George, Honestly, I cannot say > I cannot speak for others so I am not sure what you would find. Have you seen any Goblins in your garden If it was me dowsing in your garden in the situation you have listed, I would think it possible I had found water, although when I dowse for water it is never normally in a straight line, more like smaller straight lines but this may well be the dowsing response . I have in the past while dowsing for other things found water to be an interference, and often I have thought I had dowsed something and later realised it has in fact been water. Like i have said previously, dowsing is no means an exact science. With anything it takes time to formulate faith in your skill (in this case dowsing), I simply do not have the level of faith needed to trust it 100%, and it is useful to check with others in that kind of situation - I do not intend on making a living finding water, but dowsing nether less is a useful tool for my purposes I would also add that if I needed to find water I am pretty confident I would be able to, and that I am afraid I cannot explain Best Tom

Thanks Tom , another question from your comments .When you thought that you had dowsed something but later discovered that it was water , how did you know it was water .?

george

On 2013-03-14 17:54, ledgehammer wrote:

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On 2013-03-12 23:40, tiompan wrote: Hello Tom , long time no hear from . would you mind answering a question please . If I dowse in my garden concentrating on the thought of water and at certain points the rods close and when these points are plotted they prove to be in a roughly straight line should I believe that I have discovered anything ? is it likely to be water ? and if so why should I believe that ? George [ This message was edited by: tiompan on 2013-03-12 23:41 ]

George,

Honestly, I cannot say > I cannot speak for others so I am not sure what you would find. Have you seen any Goblins in your garden

If it was me dowsing in your garden in the situation you have listed, I would think it possible I had found water, although when I dowse for water it is never normally in a straight line, more like smaller straight lines but this may well be the dowsing response . I have in the past while dowsing for other things found water to be an interference, and often I have thought I had dowsed something and later realised it has in fact been water. Like i have said previously, dowsing is no means an exact science.

With anything it takes time to formulate faith in your skill (in this case dowsing), I simply do not have the level of faith needed to trust it 100%, and it is useful to check with others in that kind of situation - I do not intend on making a living finding water, but dowsing nether less is a useful tool for my purposes

I would also add that if I needed to find water I am pretty confident I would be able to, and that I am afraid I cannot explain

Best

Tom

On 2013-03-13 07:07, vlad wrote:
Hi, ledgehammer

Once I was living in a society, which was very restrictive as for any deviations from general norms of behaviour. So when I first got hold of an instruction book on dowsing, I couldn`t use pendulums and rods for that reason.

From the very start, I was forced to rely upon the inner reactions of my body, which I investigated to supplant the external tools. It turned out that muscle groups along spine reacted in specific way under different circumstances. Then I also discovered that following movements of the internal "focus of awareness" might broaden the range of natural signals, which could be perceived with one`s bare body. I combined it with the ancient model of mythical correspondences between the Man and Cosmos and that`s that.

In this way I missed my place in the chain of modern dowsing evolution. How should I name it!? - Maybe I underwent "devolution" instead?

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On 2013-03-12 23:40, tiompan wrote:
Hello Tom , long time no hear from . would you mind answering a question please .
If I dowse in my garden concentrating on the thought of water and at certain points the rods close and when these points are plotted they prove to be in a roughly straight line should I believe that I have discovered anything ? is it likely to be water ? and if so why should I believe that ?
George

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