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|  New Message Posted!2013-01-09 13:48
Crows are considered to be messengers to the otherworld and sacred to the Goddess Morrígan.
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| New Message Posted!2013-01-07 01:24
hi george...sorry if i confused you...i was just speculating about rock art being an aid to navigation and didn't make that at all clear.
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On 2013-01-06 09:53, tiompan wrote:
Dean , in what way is rock art a land navigation aid , any examples ?
George
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boreades...an interesting post. im not sure that crows would be of much use for land navigation. im not certain they are anybodys' slaves...the reason they were useful at sea was because if they couldn't see land their only recourse was back to ship..a pigeon with a homing instinct would be much more useful but i guess the best and most permanent land navigation aids are standing stones and rock art?
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| New Message Posted!2013-01-06 11:02
Graffiti on the white cliffs of Dover.
Mirrors of bronze plates with an oil-lamp at night and disc with coded gaps which flash when the wheel turns. Short-long-long Southampton.
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| New Message Posted!2013-01-06 09:53
Dean , in what way is rock art a land navigation aid , any examples ?
George
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On 2013-01-05 23:52, aknifethatfellfromthesky wrote:
boreades...an interesting post. im not sure that crows would be of much use for land navigation. im not certain they are anybodys' slaves...the reason they were useful at sea was because if they couldn't see land their only recourse was back to ship..a pigeon with a homing instinct would be much more useful but i guess the best and most permanent land navigation aids are standing stones and rock art?
dean
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chimera
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| New Message Posted!2013-01-06 04:18
German hug- means rolling country, hilly, mound which is a secondary meaning to Munnin.
If a Viking longboat had a raven figurehead and raven flag or sail and was buried in a mound with ravens and big stone on top, then the root word "*men" is repeated as Munnin menhir of the "manu" man. Vedic Manu had a boat in the Flood and Noah sent a raven to find dry land , a mound on the mountain.
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| New Message Posted!2013-01-05 23:52
boreades...an interesting post. im not sure that crows would be of much use for land navigation. im not certain they are anybodys' slaves...the reason they were useful at sea was because if they couldn't see land their only recourse was back to ship..a pigeon with a homing instinct would be much more useful but i guess the best and most permanent land navigation aids are standing stones and rock art?
dean
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chimera
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| New Message Posted!2013-01-04 10:27
The raven Munin "thought" probably is seen in Sanskrit: mana n.
मन mana n. belief
मन mana n. idea
मन mana n. opinion
मन mana n. thought .
Could it be in "menhir" , Brittany men :"stone"?
Indo European word roots:
1277 men1 'to tower'
1278 men2 'to step, tread over, press'
1279 men3 'to think, mind; spiritual activity'
1280 men4 'small, to diminish'
1281 men5 'to stay, stand still'
Sanskrit reached Pacific islands and Maori canoes had mana, meaning the ancestral spirit when families sailed to New Zealand.
Waka Taua
http://www.nms.ac.uk/highlights/star_objects/waka_taua.aspx
All objects have power or mana in Maori culture; this is a spiritual force which connects the Maori with their ancestors who first arrived in New Zealand by canoe.
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chimera
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| New Message Posted!2013-01-04 01:30
Ravens on Viking boat prows were probably like a crows nest on the mast. Homing pigeons would have to toss up whether to go back to Trondheim or forward to Iona.
[Additionally pigeons may be among the very few animals to pass the mirror test — which tests whether an animal recognizes its reflection as an image of itself — along with common chimpanzees, bonobos, orangutans, dolphins, African grey parrots, crows, magpies, elephants, and humans.]
Mirrors at megaliths would help crows find themselves.
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| New Message Posted!2013-01-03 23:58
First, hands up who remembers the old adage "as the crow flies"?
Second, to get extra points, who remembers that a "crow's nest" on ships once really did mean a caged nest of crows, used by mariners to find the shortest route to land, by releasing a crow or two and watching which direction they went in? (Crows don't like getting their feet wet)
Now, joining the dots (between the crows) who is willing to speculate that our ancient brethren could also navigate large distances across land (as well as sea) by using crows? All you need is a little megalithic industry, keeping crows and transporting them around the country ready to assist travellers who needed help finding their way.
Not quite a GPS, maybe more of a Crow Positioning System.
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| New Message Posted!2012-12-21 12:29
animal tracks will generally converge on stones because they need somewhere to rub on, to get rid of excess hair/fur/wool in summer and also to just have a right good scratch... lines that are followed by all animals (human included) are known as 'desire lines' by map makers. they generally follow the least wet areas in the straightest line possible from A to B.
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