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Respond to: Ancient British Barrow at Teddington (1858 report)
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tiompan
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|  New Message Posted!2012-10-13 16:18
Monument 397953 in Pastscape .Url is a bit of a wrap .
http://www.pastscape.org.uk/hob.aspx?hob_id=397953&sort=2&rational=m&recordsperpage=10&maplat=51.41879516&maplong=-0
George
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davidmorgan
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| New Message Posted!2012-10-13 16:02
Old Maps don't have very high resolution of Sandy Lane - nothing obvious there, and now built on.
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jonm
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| New Message Posted!2012-10-13 07:43
Hi Andy: I doubt it's possible:
The Sussex barrows seem to be easy to find if you follow two trains of thought (leading to four tasks), but the ease with which I'm finding stuff in Sussex can't automatically be applied elsewhere: The same conditions don't exist at Teddington so the reasons to build a barrow could not have followed the same train of thought.
I'm writing up the logic sequence at the moment for Sussex and hope to get it out for November. Maybe it's possible to do the same thing elsewhere, but I tend to find stuff by saying "I want to achieve X, so where do I go to do that.." and then when I turn up, there's always something neolithic there and it's always something that would be helpful to the task.
I think it would be extremely difficult (or impossible) to reverse the process.
Jon
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Andy B
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| New Message Posted!2012-10-12 22:24
Not forgetting the source link
http://archive.org/details/surreyarchaeol01surr
Scan funded by the University of Toronto
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Andy B
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| New Message Posted!2012-10-12 22:23
Here's a good one for you Jon M, I wonder if we can locate the site where it was or any remnant?
from Surrey archaeological collections (1858)
Author: Surrey Archaeological Society
Volume: 1
page 74-76
ANCIENT BRITISH BARROW AT TEDDINGTON.
This Barrow was opened under the direction and
superintendence of Mr. Akerman, Secretary of the
Society of Antiquaries, during a meeting of the Surrey
Archaeological Society, held at Kingston-on-Thames, on
the 30th June, 1854. It is situated on some ploughed
land, long known as " Barrow Field," on the right hand
of the carriage-road called " Sandy-lane," leading from
Hampton Wick to Bushey. A portion of this tumulus
was removed when the road was widened about twenty
years since ; but there is no record of any relics having
been then discovered.
There were, as usual, many traditions — some of them
wild enough — respecting the spot. The country people
had a story that a man and his horse were buried
beneath the mound ; and many of the better educated
believed that it covered the remains of numerous victims
of the plague in the seventeenth century. This last
notion had so possessed the mind of a late royal per-
sonage then residing at Bushey, that a contemplated
opening of the Barrow some years since was positively
interdicted !
This mound had clearly been previously assailed ;
doubtless by treasure-seekers, who, finding their re-
searches opposed by a compact mass of sand, had
desisted after cutting into the south side, and digging
into the apex; in which latter assault they appear to have dislodged and broken to pieces a fine mortuary
urn.
ANCIENT WEAPON DISCOVERED IN A TUMULUS .AT TEDDINGTON.
Bronze — length. 7 in.; breadth, 2 1/2 in
Thus mutilated, the Barrow afforded but slight en-
couragement to the explorers : it was, however, resolved
to excavate it to its base. In its imperfect state, its
altitude was about twelve feet ; its breadth from north
to south fifty-two feet, and from east to west ninety-six
feet. These measurements show how much had been
removed when the road was widened.
The exploration commenced by the opening of a
trench eight feet wide, but the presence of bricks and
tiles, carelessly thrown in by former investigators, dis-
couraged further excavation in that direction ; accord-
ingly, a trench of the same width was opened on the
south side. After several hours' work, the labourers
reached the centre of the floor, which was plainly indi-
cated by the sand being burnt to a brick-colour. Traces
of charcoal were now apparent, and after a few minutes'
careful examination and removal of these indications, a
small heap of calcined human bones was discovered.
Upon these was laid the dagger-blade represented in
the accompanying plate.
No traces of an urn, nor of any other object, except
a few chippings of flint, were observed. Fragments of
the like character are found in primeval tumuli, and
may have been used by the tribe which assisted at these
obsequies.
This Barrow was formed entirely of the surrounding
soil, consisting chiefly of a compact sand, and was sin-
gularly free from large flints and stones. Nor was the
heap of bones protected by a covering of stones, or by
soil differing from that oT the mound.
Further excavations on the following day brought to
light the fragments of the large urn already spoken of, and a flint hatchet-head, or celt ; also the bones of an
adult, superficially buried ; but these had no connection
with the interment already described, which was doubt-
less that over which the mound was first raised.
The bronze dagger-blade, if not belonging to the very
earliest period, must yet be referred to a very remote
age ; and the individual whose obsequies had thus been
celebrated by the rite of cremation, was probably a
person of some rank and consideration among the
primeval inhabitants of the southern district of Britain,
long previous to the advent of Caesar.
Mr. Quekett, of the Royal College of Surgeons, has
inspected the calcined bones, which he states are those
of an adult. He has detected among them portions of
the cranium, portions of the upper and lower maxilla,
the fang of an incisor tooth, and a fragment of a
phalangal bone of a finger. The whole had been re-
duced by great heat, and with free access of air during
combustion.
The dagger may be compared with the examples
figured in xlkerman's " Archaeological Index," Plate V.
Nos. 40, 41, 42. The handle, of bone, wood, or horn,
has perished ; but traces of its form are yet observable
on the blade. It is represented in the plate of two-thirds
the actual size.
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