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Respond to: In Our Time - Hadrian\'s Wall and other Roman stuff from t\'north
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Sunny100
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|  New Message Posted!2013-01-18 21:32
I am told that Roman soldiers stationed at the wall at the time of its construction did actually call it "Hadrian's Wall" !! 
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| New Message Posted!2013-01-17 13:39
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On 2013-01-17 12:44, Sanchez wrote:
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On 2012-10-11 18:41, Andy B wrote:
Ale, Caesar! Romans and Caledonian tribes went to pub together
ARCHAEOLOGISTS surveying the world’s most northerly Roman fort have found an ancient pub.
The discovery, outside the walls of the fort at Stracathro, near Brechin, Angus, |
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Epic FAIL here!
There are Roman Forts far more Northerly than that one in a line running from Stonehaven (just South of Aberdeen) over the landscape to Fochabers on the Moray coastline halfway between Inverness and Aberdeen. Perhaps remnants of the times from teh battle of Mons Graupius where the Grampian mountains take their name.
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Mons Graupius, I can see it now, the Romans and Caledonians gathered in the Fochabers pub waiting on the commentary of the Gladiatorial games 3 months earlier in Rome, where the local side is having a premiership outing.
The Runner arrives at the bar and enquires"Is this the Fochabers?" A drunken Roman squaddie, Bertius takes offence, an Amphore is thrown......
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On 2012-10-11 18:41, Andy B wrote:
Ale, Caesar! Romans and Caledonian tribes went to pub together
ARCHAEOLOGISTS surveying the world’s most northerly Roman fort have found an ancient pub.
The discovery, outside the walls of the fort at Stracathro, near Brechin, Angus, |
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Epic FAIL here!
There are Roman Forts far more Northerly than that one in a line running from Stonehaven (just South of Aberdeen) over the landscape to Fochabers on the Moray coastline halfway between Inverness and Aberdeen. Perhaps remnants of the times from teh battle of Mons Graupius where the Grampian mountains take their name.
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Sunny100
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|  New Message Posted!2012-10-16 22:15
This new find dosen't surprise me at all. The Romans liked their wine, yes, but they also enjoyed beer - quite probably a local brew made out of hops and herbs etc, just like some of us like our home brews and locally made beers. Things haven't changed much have they. Perhaps we should be thankful to the Romans for giving us the "pub" or "ale house".
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Andy B
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| New Message Posted!2012-10-11 18:41
Ale, Caesar! Romans and Caledonian tribes went to pub together
ARCHAEOLOGISTS surveying the world’s most northerly Roman fort have found an ancient pub.
The discovery, outside the walls of the fort at Stracathro, near Brechin, Angus, could challenge the long-held assumption that Caledonian tribes would never have rubbed shoulders with the Roman invaders.
Indeed, it lends support to the existence of a more complicated and convivial relationship than previously envisaged, akin to that enjoyed with his patrician masters by the wine-swilling slave Lurcio, played by comedy legend Frankie Howerd, in the classic late 1970s television show Up Pompeii!.
Stracathro Fort was at the end of the Gask Ridge, a line of forts and watchtowers stretching from Doune, near Stirling.
The system is thought to be the earliest Roman land frontier, built around AD70 – 50 years before Hadrian’s Wall.
The fort was discovered from aerial photographs taken in 1957, which showed evidence of defensive towers and protective ditches. A bronze coin and a shard of pottery were found, but until now little more has been known about the site.
Now archaeologists working on “The Roman Gask Project” have found a settlement outside the fort – including the pub or wine bar. The Roman hostelry had a large square room – the equivalent of a public bar – and fronted on to a paved area, akin to a modern beer garden.
The archaeologists also found the spout of a wine jug.
Dr Birgitta Hoffmann, co-director of the project, said: “Roman forts south of the Border have civilian settlements that provided everything they needed, from male and female companionship to shops, pubs and bath houses.
“It was a very handy service, but it was always taught that you didn’t have to look for settlements at forts in Scotland because it was too dangerous – it was thought civilians didn’t want to live too close.
Read more in the Scotsman
http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/heritage/ale-caesar-romans-and-caledonian-tribes-went-to-pub-together-1-2514282
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Andy B
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| New Message Posted!2012-10-11 18:40
Duration: 43 minutes
Melvyn Bragg and his guests discuss Hadrian's Wall, the largest Roman structure and one of the most important archaeological monuments in Britain. Stretching for eighty miles from the mouth of the River Tyne to the Solway Firth and classified today as a World Heritage Site, it has been a source of fascination ever since it came into existence. It was built in about 122 AD by the Emperor Hadrian, and a substantial part of it still survives today.
Although its construction must have entailed huge cost and labour, the Romans abandoned it within twenty years, deciding to build the Antonine Wall further north instead. Even after more than a century of excavations, many mysteries still surround Hadrian's Wall, including its exact purpose. Did it have a meaningful defensive role or was it mainly a powerful emperor's vanity project?
With:
Greg Woolf, Professor of Ancient History at the University of St Andrews
David Breeze, Former Chief Inspector of Ancient Monuments for Scotland and Visiting Professor of Archaeology at the University of Durham
Lindsay Allason-Jones, Former Reader in Roman Material Culture at the University of Newcastle
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01kkr42
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/b01kkr42
with thanks to Jackdaw1 for the link
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