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davidmorgan

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| New Message Posted!2012-09-14 18:36  
Since the vast majority of evidence points to man's arrival in the Americas in around 14000 or so BCE, I don't think you can blame the archaeologists for being a bit sceptical when dates like 400,000 BCE are being bandied about. Especially with only one find point with debatable provenance.
And I expect nothing less from the conspiracy theorists who shout "suppression".
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Runemage

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| New Message Posted!2012-09-14 13:07  
I'd be remiss to not highlight this xkcd strip after that post
http://xkcd.com/435/
Lol x2, Good choice I love that site!
Rune
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tiompan

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| New Message Posted!2012-09-14 12:36  
lol .
Archaeos are proably way off to the left of sociologists ,and if they are post processualists /phenomenologists in another dimension created by string theorists .
George
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On 2012-09-08 19:48, tiompan wrote:
Depends on the hardness of your science innit .
Physicists probably see geologists in much the same light as you do archaeologists and mathematicians being the queens are simply unassailable but tend to be less efficient chefs ,vicars , and non techno archaeos .
George
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I'd be remiss to not highlight this xkcd strip after that post
http://xkcd.com/435/
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juamei

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| New Message Posted!2012-09-14 12:24  
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On 2012-09-08 19:48, tiompan wrote:
Depends on the hardness of your science innit .
Physicists probably see geologists in much the same light as you do archaeologists and mathematicians being the queens are simply unassailable but tend to be less efficient chefs ,vicars , and non techno archaeos .
George
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I'd be remiss to not highlight this xkcd strip after that post
http://xkcd.com/435/
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aknifethatfellfromthesky

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| New Message Posted!2012-09-13 19:38  
geologists study matter...i have studied moon rocks, mars rocks, meteorites pre solar grains, the formation of proto planetery discs. if we believe that men went to the moon the only civilian of the bunch was a geologist
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regards. dean
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tiompan

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| New Message Posted!2012-09-13 19:21  
But not as hard a scientist as a physicist or mathematician .
I think cosmologists/astrophysicists might have a bit more claim to describing the universe than the more geocentric geologists .
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On 2012-09-13 19:05, aknifethatfellfromthesky wrote:
geology is a science that uses physics, chemistry and maths to describe the universe. a physicist wouldn't regard a geologist as anything other than a scientist.
regards. dean
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aknifethatfellfromthesky

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| New Message Posted!2012-09-13 19:05  
geology is a science that uses physics, chemistry and maths to describe the universe. a physicist wouldn't regard a geologist as anything other than a scientist.
regards. dean
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tiompan

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| New Message Posted!2012-09-12 10:50  
Yes Jim perfectly clear , dunno why I didn't understand it at the time .
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On 2012-09-12 10:27, Dragonsinger wrote:
Hi George
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Accept that Archaeology is an imprecise science and keep refining it and please remember that an opinion is not a fact and a theory is only a best guess untill proven.
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You quoted the portion in italics and asked have I seen any indication that this was the case on this site. It was not aimed at any particular individual hence my reply.
Hope this makes it clear.
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Jim
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Dragonsinger

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| New Message Posted!2012-09-12 10:27  
Hi George
Last paragraph of my second post where I said:
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Accept that Archaeology is an imprecise science and keep refining it and please remember that an opinion is not a fact and a theory is only a best guess untill proven.
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You quoted the portion in italics and asked have I seen any indication that this was the case on this site. It was not aimed at any particular individual hence my reply.
Hope this makes it clear.
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Jim
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tiompan

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| New Message Posted!2012-09-11 22:13  
No not offended . Puzzled .
Which section did I quote from .?
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But the section you have quoted is not meant to imply that this is indicative of the vast majority of subscribers to this site. Or, indeed, that it is a bad thing. By it's nature archaeology must remain a dicipline of interpretation and revision of those interpretations. It is the last bit thar seems to wear away as the individual archaeologist gets further and further up career the path or in the accepted heirarchy. Also, it does not inevitably happen to every archaeologist.
So if I have offended you I apologise.
Also this tendancy to a belief of infalibility (a God complex?) is not confined to archaeology or even academia, polititians are good examples. No I will not give speciffic examples everyone will have their own pet nominee.
However this detracts from the intent of my original post which was to say "Look guys I do not have an answer to this or any other eratta." but can we start some serious investigaion into them? All we are doing if we ignore them is continue to build a database which is flawed and narrowed by ommision.
A serious problem is that most, if not all, of the current eratta are not in situ or available for study. We believe the "Leakys" dates and finds so why not expand the search for verification and understanding. OH yes, and please, please, please, debunk the fakes.
Jim
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