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Forum:  Sacred Sites and Megalithic Mysteries
Moderated by : davidmorgan , TimPrevett , Andy B , Klingon , MickM , bat400 , sem , Runemage , TheCaptain Respond to:  Piezoelectric Theory PROVEN
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ChasDrown



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 New Message Posted!2012-09-13 15:47   
Electric Lady,
You do not say, but I assume that the device used to generate the "Uluru Legend" music, was in a grounded Faraday Cage, and that your meter was not just picking up electrical impulses from this device.
Chas

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 New Message Posted!2012-09-12 19:38   
Hi Electric Lady

Couple of things:
Try researching the "Stone Tape" theory. What this says in a nutshell is that since stones have elements within them which are piezio electric in nature (quartz grains etc) and since human brain waves are also electrical in nature then during conditions of extreme emotional or physical stress the pattern of the signals given off by the (not necessarily human) brain can be imprinted into a rocky medium and later replayed in another brain picking them up.
Since sex and terror are the most extreme emotions we will normally encounter these are what occur in most hauntings.
Try You Tube "The Stone Tape" by Nigel Kneale 1972.
A heads up on this one as he is the guy who wrote the "Quatermass" books and tv series.

For an alternative explanation try ultrasound.
The links are both .PDF files the first is Ghost in the Machine www.hauntmastersclub.com/files/ghost-in-machine.pdf
And the second is Something in the Cellar Page Title

You seem to be working on similar lines.

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 New Message Posted!2012-06-22 10:23   
Here's a comment from vvurdsmyth who can't logon right now.

Dear Electric Lady, interesting, but what were you doing... playing the music and showing the electronic response from the stones? If so, your post indicates you need a technical/science person to hobnob with you on your excursions and write up your findings. There is a somewhat flexible, but more precise way science people present findings such as yours. I wish I were in the UK, I would be pleased to help you. What you might do is try to find such a person.


Christopher Dunn (author also on YouTube), and perhaps others have discovered a sound vibration aspect of the Giza Pyramids... and hmmm, it leads one to consider that perhaps the Ancients found that sound can be used to create electric energy, subsequently magnetic fields, maybe even force fields. There is also Sun Ra (YouTube)... I don't know if any of the TV bits I saw, years ago are there, but he had in interesting point of view on the power of sound and music. A bit I remember of his:
"Music can even wash cloths"
Best of Luck

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 New Message Posted!2012-06-15 21:19   
Hello,
you might like to contact Maria Wheatley who has been doing similar research around Avebury.
http://www.theaveburyexperience.co.uk/megalithic.html

also Paul Devereaux
http://www.landscape-perception.com/acoustic_mapping/

PeteG

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electric_lady



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 New Message Posted!2012-06-15 20:13   
Hi Runemage

Sorry I haven't made myself clear - I just noticed this site does not do the "signature" thing, so the link to my web site is not very obvious. All the info is on there:

Singing to the Stones


As for control experiments done on ordinary rocks, I get zilch. By which I mean a random rock in a field. But I am planning on doing some more experiments that I can do at home.

I hope my reply to the other fella has also made things clearer.

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On 2012-06-13 23:32, Runemage wrote:
I thought you'd have had a few replies to this, maybe people aren't
sure what you've found. That includes me!

At the very least, it's interesting, please let us know if you discover anything else, or if you do an experiment with ordinary rocks, like a pile of field clearance, to see how they differ.

Many thanks for trying

Rune






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 New Message Posted!2012-06-15 19:56   
this is fairly interesting, but you might want to add a LOT more information about what it is that you did and what you feel you have proved.

Please visit my web site, it has all the info on what piezoelectric theory is. There is loads of stuff on there!

Singing to the Stones

The basics?

* The stones are positioned on sites where the earth's natural electric charge is strongest. So they already contain a tiny electrical current.

* The quartz and other crystal in the rock resonate when sounds are played.

* This causes the amplification of the original electrical input, outputting more electricity.



The video doesn't show enough of what's going on, doesn't show any different conditions

Point taken. The trouble is, I am one person, with no car, lots of equipment and I have arthritis. Which means I can't carry much. I also have a 3 year old! So the fact I have even managed this is incredible!

It would help a lot if I could get some other people involved, but nobody seems very bothered. Its kind of hard to fit a tripod in a baby buggy when you are already carrying a stereo, a camera, juice, coats, and struggle to walk very far.


In the video, I would very much want to see what the wires on your meter were hooked up to and how they are attached.

Try watching some of the other videos from the Sites menu. Dolmen Mezar shows the technique best. Its not very hard to comprehend.
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Obviously saying that I am an honest person is not enough, which is a shame. It is not a hoax and I would LOVE for more people to be out there trying this for themselves! This is why the information is available free, online. I am not going to hawk a book from this - or if I do write one, the basics will be available online and the fine detail in the book.


And as mentioned above, how the same experiment comes out if you hook the meter up to other similar stones that are not part of a human site, and then try it with and without music. Also what happens if you use a more pure tone, say from a loud flute at various pitches.

Watch this space! However, I am still learning myself. How much time do you think I have to devote to making sample disks up? My daughter is my priority. I agree, could be that any old music from Happy House to Beethoven would work, if it were in the right key. Who knows if there is a preference for types of tone or instrument? I can only know by experimenting. But like I say - you can join in. There is nothing stopping you!

I too have been interested in the topic of electrostatics in megaliths and I know that there is not a lot of information available about it.

Nothing picked up on EMF meters.

Caution: as soon as you do, also get ready for many inevitable critiques from all of the science-minded people out there. Saying you've 'proved' something always invites a LOT of scrutiny of your methods and results.

I don't care. Most people are highly skeptical about the idea that "cave men" were anything other than slightly brighter than chimps. Its going to be very hard for most people to accept this, even with the best proof in the world. I am lucky that my mind is more open! However, if you have read the work of Andis Kaulins or Chris Dunn you are going to realise that I am not the only person questioning the origins of man or the official version of history taught at school.

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 New Message Posted!2012-06-14 06:56   
Electric Lady

this is fairly interesting, but you might want to add a LOT more information about what it is that you did and what you feel you have proved. The video doesn't show enough of what's going on, doesn't show any different conditions, and your description doesn't contain enough information to make it understandable.

In the video, I would very much want to see what the wires on your meter were hooked up to and how they are attached. I think everyone would certainly also want to see how the meter changes when the music stops. And as mentioned above, how the same experiment comes out if you hook the meter up to other similar stones that are not part of a human site, and then try it with and without music. Also what happens if you use a more pure tone, say from a loud flute at various pitches.

Perhaps mainly, I wish you would describe exactly what it is that you are testing for - some explanitory background information to make your experiment comprehensible. There's just not enough explanation or comparison here to make heads or tails of it.

I too have been interested in the topic of electrostatics in megaliths and I know that there is not a lot of information available about it. If you want your efforts to be meaningful to others you might consider adding a lot more information.

Caution: as soon as you do, also get ready for many inevitable critiques from all of the science-minded people out there. Saying you've 'proved' something always invites a LOT of scrutiny of your methods and results.



Runemage



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 New Message Posted!2012-06-13 23:32   
I thought you'd have had a few replies to this, maybe people aren't
sure what you've found. That includes me!

At the very least, it's interesting, please let us know if you discover anything else, or if you do an experiment with ordinary rocks, like a pile of field clearance, to see how they differ.

Many thanks for trying

Rune



electric_lady



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 New Message Posted!2012-06-09 20:49   
Hi everyone, Rosie and I went off to Anglesey last week. We had quite a remarkable day at Lligwy Burial Chamber and I feel happy enough with the results to say with confidence that this theory is proven. Of course now we want to know what they were using the electricity for. As one question is answered another is asked!

Here is the voltmeter responding to a track called "Uluru Legend" by native Australian band "Legends of Uluru". The didgeridoo in this track is pitched at F. I did some testing which showed that E and F were the best pitches for producing electrical output.



The footage which shows the results for different pitches C, C#, D etc is on my site, under the Lligwy page:
Lligwy "Burial Chamber"

I have also made an interesting discovery regarding the spiral motifs at many megalithic sites. Having read about the human ear bones excavated at Bryn Celli Ddu, I was looking into the anatomy of the ear, and realised that the cochlea is actually a spiral.

Check out this diagram!


For more info please visit my web site:
Singing to the Stones


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