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vlad
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|  New Message Posted!2012-06-09 22:24
And I was so naive to believe the old stories telling Jesus underwent a kind of transformation or "divinization", at the end of his life. In the result of such process, all material body should vanish, I suppose,- to not interfere with the "ascension"?
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Feanor
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| New Message Posted!2012-06-09 03:54
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On 2012-06-08 23:30, sem wrote:
" ...the ninja branch of the Priory of Sion ..."
I can tell you didn't have a good, honest, Jesuit up-bringing Feanor!
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Jesuits fear me!
C of E's tremble at my name!
Welshmen cross the street to avoid me!
Feanor! Writer of Fiction - Destroyer of Worlds!
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sem
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| New Message Posted!2012-06-08 23:30
" ...the ninja branch of the Priory of Sion ..."
I can tell you didn't have a good, honest, Jesuit up-bringing Feanor!
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TheCaptain
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| New Message Posted!2012-06-08 12:37
"They believe that this is proof the site is the final resting place of Jesus. However, other scholars remain highly sceptical of the find."
and there I was , thinking he sailed away into the sunset with Mary, before landing in the Camargue and living out his days in southern France before being buried at Rennes le Chateau...
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Feanor
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| New Message Posted!2012-06-07 21:56
LOL @ Rune's: " ...the ninja branch of the Priory of Sion ..."
The four main documents that are said to chronicle the life & death of JC were A. written long after the events, and B. are themselves distillations of (more or less) each other, and are thought to be partially illuminated (or amplified) versions of an as yet undiscovered, but strongly suspected text, long known as 'The Q-Document'.
Since we now know that the events of the 1st third of the 1st Century in Judea were the latest incarnation of a long tradition explaining the Sun's winter Solstice passage through the various Zodiacal Houses, the likelihood of any significant Icon of Faith being found in this ossuary approach zero percent.
Abraham's Ram = Aries
Moses' Bull = Taurus
Jesus' fish = Pisces
In another 120-odd years it'll be Aquarius and time again for some fellow to 'be born of a Virgin' at Winter Solstice, have '12 followers', and die horribly on the Vernal Equinox, yadda yadda yadda ...
Neil
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frogcottage42
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| New Message Posted!2012-06-07 17:54
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Isn't the whole point of JC's teaching that there was no body post resurrection?
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I am a devout atheist from the Christian point of view but I have studied the Bible at some length over the years and as far as I can tell the gospels differ wildly about whether there was a body.
Only one has him disappearing totally and then magically being met a short while later but looking totally different
The main gospels were of course written to satisfy the current fashions amongst their individual target audiences so I guess there is a good chance that if he existed- there was a body.
On the whole I agree with you that if there was the slightest sniff of reality in this claim someone would have already dug it up, after all since when did the Israeli government need permission to blow up buildings or demolish something in the way of their beliefs?
This would by now be the biggest shrine in Christendom if it were at all plausible!
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Runemage
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| New Message Posted!2012-06-07 16:23
My antivirus has blocked that site so I've had a look around.
I remember a fuss a few years ago about an ossuary inscribed with a name I can't remember, James maybe, then it said brother of Jeshua son of Joseph - so perfect that it was thought to be a hoax.
Isn't the whole point of JC's teaching that there was no body post resurrection?
Apologies to the religious that may be reading, here are some other points to ponder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Tomb_of_Jesus
This looks as though it's the source for Jackdaw's article.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/new-archaeological-discovery-questions-jesus-bodily-resurrection-70506/
So... a nearby tomb discovered in the eighties was thought to be JC's family tomb, DNA was taken and nothing much more's been said. Now this one, explored in 2010 with a robotic camera "cannot be excavated at this time" Oh come on, if it contained things that were that important, someone, probably the ninja branch of the Priory of Sion would have already been and removed the contents whether permission was given or not
Is this a publicity stunt for the new film. Or are we so cynical these days that something genuine would be dismissed as a hoax without being investigated thoroughly.
Rune
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bat400
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| New Message Posted!2012-06-07 14:09
With my tongue firmly in my cheek I report that,
Jackdaw1 writes:
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Using a robotic arm equipped with a camera, archaeologists have found human bone boxes and an inscription that reads 'Divine Jehovah, raise up, raise up' in a 1st Century Christian burial chamber beneath a tower block in Jerusalem.
They believe that this is proof the site is the final resting place of Jesus. However, other scholars remain highly sceptical of the find.
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The inscription is on a limestone box known as an ossuarie - with another such box carrying a drawing of a fish with a stick figure in its mouth which is believed to refer to the story of Jonah and the Whale - one of the very first biblical stories.
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