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sem

Joined: 12-11-2003
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from Bridgend,S.Wales
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| New Message Posted!2012-06-27 00:11  
Aaah, nothing like a strict definition is there Karloff?
Let's throw a few pots in boys, just to confuse those bloody archaoes and metal detectorists!
Sorry, but it's late and I'm on hols.... need I say more?
God help Bevins at Cardiff Museum tomorrow if I've got a hangover... so tell me Mr Bevins, did you sample every "Bluestone" at Stonehenge?
http://www.museumwales.ac.uk/en/whatson/?event_id=5716
Looks like fun.
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caradoc68

Joined: 24-06-2010
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from Yeovil
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| New Message Posted!2012-06-26 21:29  
Yes boiling pot, but for what ?Food, salt, removing hair form skins even saunas have been suggested. We have two in Argyll that have been found very close to the Ocean.
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Andy B

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| New Message Posted!2012-06-26 20:52  
> its more likely the were actually mapping metal detecting popularity rather than anything meaningful to prehistory
Excellent observation 
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karloff

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| New Message Posted!2012-06-26 16:20  
Hi All
The Royal Commission (now English Heritage) have a strict definition for Burnt Mounds:
BURNT MOUND
UF Boiling Mound
SN A mound of fire-cracked stones, normally accompanied by a trough or pit which may have been lined with wood, stone or clay. Assumed to be locations where heated stones were used to boil water primarily for cooking purposes.
They are normally Bronze Age and occur all over the place, recent finds have included one in Devon and another in Somerset, way outside their "assumed" distribution, which shows why distribution maps are rubbish (so I'd ignore Bradley et al as they didn't realise they were simply plotting findspots of metalwork so its more likely the were actually mapping metal detecting popularity rather than anything meaningful to prehistory).
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JohnLindsay

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| New Message Posted!2012-06-11 10:03  
this looks like an interesting case for words and things. I remember someone has a book called round mounds which I'll track down and see whether burnt mounds are included as a category. In the rivers around Essex as salt mounds, which are red, and called red something or other on the OS maps, and that is because water was being boiled off to make salt. Salt making would happend where ever there was a salt thing and that thread I started as white gold.
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caradoc68

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| New Message Posted!2012-06-08 19:48  
Interesting topic, burnt mounds. I've put a few pictures from the west coast of Scotland up of burnt mounds and will put them in the Artificial Mound category, thanks
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Runemage

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| New Message Posted!2012-06-07 00:05  
They are mostly listed under Artificial Mound, hope you can find what you're looking for.
If not, please shout
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On 2012-06-06 12:33, lewisw wrote:
I can't seem to find a category here for 'burnt mounds' which seem to be a particular type of ancient site.
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SolarMegalith

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| New Message Posted!2012-06-06 19:19  
There is a paper by Richard Bradley and David Yates from "Antiquity" 84 in which they analysed the distribution of the Bronze Age metalwork deposits in English Fenland - the metalwork deposits are often very close to burnt mounds, particularly in south-eastern fenlands. Of course it does not explain the entirety of the burnt mounds phenomenon, but is certainly an interesting pattern. Also the burnt mounds in England are usually located outside of the settlements.
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Andy B

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| New Message Posted!2012-06-06 18:39  
Burnt mounds are listed under 'Artificial Mound', although some seem to be under 'Misc Earthwork'. Doesn't look like we have that one listed, putting the grid ref in the search box will take you to the closest site.
Try also the Google site search box.
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/google_results.php?cx=partner-pub-4246035596572293%3A5pf3mx-mylq&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=burnt+mound+wales&sa=Search
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Runemage

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| New Message Posted!2012-06-06 16:24  
Try doing some research on Fulacht Fiadh, that's their Irish name and see what turns up. This is a good start
http://www.archaeology.org/1201/letter/fulacht_fiadh_ale_bronze_age_ireland.html
Rune
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