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Respond to: Plinth unveiled to mark site of Penkhull Iron Age fort in Stoke-on-Trent
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LittleEnki

Joined: 22-01-2012
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| New Message Posted!2012-01-30 16:29  
That's for sure, Rune. I cant imagine why a town would tear itself into sides, when the pride and passion for the past history of the town is amazing. In the US we have areas like this where people live, and want to control how everyone around them's lives, as well. They are called Deed restricted communities, and they are the most bland, boring, places in the US. Not to mention the typical boringness and blandness of the people who enjoy living in them. This poor guy is getting quite the raw deal from his fellow townsfolk, I think, and hopefully he gets some others on his side soon!(I couldnt get to the GE link, but I think I have to format GE on this new laptop still.)
Cheers!
Dave
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On 2012-01-06 22:43, Runemage wrote:
Quite a backstory...
August 30th http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/Penkhull-passion/story-13230356-detail/story.html
This is from September http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/Villagers-don-t-sign-welcoming/story-13268711-detail/story.html
December http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/Sign-mark-village-s-past/story-14030017-detail/story.html
GE isn't helpful for a view of a possible hillfort location using their description.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Penkhull+Staffs&ll=53.003707,-2.193431&spn=0.008755,0.026157&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hq=Penkhull&hnear=Staffordshire,+United+Kingdom&t=m&vpsrc=6&fll=53.006469,-2.196879&fspn=0.008754,0.026157&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.003707,-2.193431&panoid=exUtgrJw6urjiQlnz34UXw&cbp=12,358.56,,0,0
[ This message was edited by: Runemage on 2012-01-06 22:45 ]
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LittleEnki

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| New Message Posted!2012-01-30 16:20  
Hey Andy, I read the article as well, and wondered the same about which area exactly the plinth was in. Ive never been there, but it sounds like a cool site to visit upon my next UK trip.
In the US, I wish we would learn to take our heritage and past history more seriously, and with pride, like the town in the article does. It seems that most of my countymen dont care one way or another about history, as long as they have their starbucks and i phones.
I could definitely do with a move to the UK, but my wallet wont let that occur
Cheers!
Dave
(PS) thanks for the welcome!
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Sunny100

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| New Message Posted!2012-01-29 22:19  
I do remember Penkhull very well from when I lived in the Potteries, but did not know it had an Iron Age fort. But the name would suggest "hill beside a hall" Pen hual or something like that. I will endeavour to find out more - if there is more ?
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Runemage

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| New Message Posted!2012-01-27 20:06  
Thanks BrownEdger. Hope your father is well on the way to recovery. I remember looking on GE at the location stated on the Resident's Assoc link, quoted below, and that area did indeed seem to be higher than its surrounds, but that was the only indication of it being a likely contender for a hillfort. I think we're so used to seeing them out in the remote countryside that we forget that modern hilly towns and cities most likely had their own.
"However, the new sign at Honeywall will have a double significance because evidence supports that the area in Honeywall (meaning hill fortress) could well be the entrance to the former Iron Age Fort as well as the ancient Domesday Village. The new stone memorial will reflect that fact."
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BrownEdger

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| New Message Posted!2012-01-27 14:13  
It was my intention to visit the site of the plinth and gather some more info after Xmas, however my elderly father suffered a nasty accident and broke his leg !!!
I can suggest the following links though:-
Stoke-upon-Trent
tour of stoke-on-trent
(this also mentions possible other forts at Darlaston and Maer. That would be Bury Bank and Berth Hill then)
Penkhull Residents Association
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Runemage

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| New Message Posted!2012-01-06 22:43  
Quite a backstory...
August 30th http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/Penkhull-passion/story-13230356-detail/story.html
This is from September http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/Villagers-don-t-sign-welcoming/story-13268711-detail/story.html
December http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/Sign-mark-village-s-past/story-14030017-detail/story.html
GE isn't helpful for a view of a possible hillfort location using their description.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Penkhull+Staffs&ll=53.003707,-2.193431&spn=0.008755,0.026157&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hq=Penkhull&hnear=Staffordshire,+United+Kingdom&t=m&vpsrc=6&fll=53.006469,-2.196879&fspn=0.008754,0.026157&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.003707,-2.193431&panoid=exUtgrJw6urjiQlnz34UXw&cbp=12,358.56,,0,0
[ This message was edited by: Runemage on 2012-01-06 22:45 ]
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Andy B

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| New Message Posted!2012-01-06 22:04  
A news item contributed by BrownEdger (thanks!)
Does anyone know which hill fort this is referring to as I can't find it?
Plinth unveiled marking site of Penkhull Iron Age fort in Stoke-on-Trent
PLINTH IN PLACE: A marble plinth has been unveiled to mark the entrance to the Iron Age fort and Domesday village of Penkhull. Sue Wainwright, landlord of the White Lion pub, unveiled the plinth in front of 70 spectators.
It reads:- "This stone marks the entrance to the former Iron Age fort and the Domesday village of Pinchetel. A Royal Manor from 1086 to the time of Edward II."
The plinth was co-ordinated by the Penkhull Residents Association, whose chairman, Richard Talbot said: "There was a tremendous reception to the unveiling." The White Lion pub laid on a buffet lunch for the people at the unveiling.
Source: The Staffordshire Sentinel, Monday December 12th 2011.
(not on their web site it would appear)
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