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Forum:  Sacred Sites and Megalithic Mysteries
Moderated by : davidmorgan , TimPrevett , Andy B , Klingon , MickM , bat400 , sem , Runemage , TheCaptain Respond to:  Site for Healing
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 New Message Posted!2010-11-24 21:16   
Well; cropredy, it`s not about words nor the intellectual constructions. Rather try to use predominantly your BODY not the brains. The target is to keep being aware of the quality of space you are moving within. Only then you can follow a line or a path (two lines and a space between them), continuously.

Yes; I know. A line, which a dowser detect - use to lie perpendicularly to the direction of walking. Linking the points of crossing together, gives him the course of the line, which is usually straight. Otherwise, dowsers can demand from their rods to point to a target (e.g. a "centre") and follow a STRAIGHT LINE towards it. Some similar techniques follow.

But I`m talking about dowsing IRREGULAR SPACES, which are contained between lines of many disparate configurations. A way to get there may lead you through studying Chinese and Hindu traditions. Then, why not trying to think over old myths and folklore again. Under that way, your capability to analyze the movements of the focus of your awareness - should surely improve... if only you could take a specific distance to your body, treating it as a tool.

Here`s an example what`s the use for dowsing irregular spaces, Well; this time of year the "child energy" flowing abundantly within matrix channels from Imbolc through to Midsummer, - is being dissipated. A "crone" energy is supplanting the former more and more, forming irregular
"pools" around.

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 New Message Posted!2010-11-24 21:04   
Vlad,
I didn't know what to call it, so POT just popped into My head, it is about incubation, and the start of creation.
http://www.sangraal.com/incubation.htm

They talk of the straight male lines, and curved femine lines, and left and right brain connection.
I have both brains chatting to each other, with ME seemingly listening, most bizzare.
I can visualise myself as this stick man inside the geometry, I have pounded the geometry for five years into myself, I know it like the back of My hands.
cropredy

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 New Message Posted!2010-11-24 20:53   
Well; cropredy. It`s not a "pot" but a stylized small tripod (three-legged kettle or a "cauldron") with a little figure of a NEWBORN DIONYSOS, which is not painted but formed in ceramics upon it. There was a bad light within the Museum at Delphi, Greece, so those details couldn`t had been caught rightly with a photo.

We can be sure, it has nothing to do with classical sculptures of a triumphant Dionysos riding a leopard or a grape-decorated and drunken one, in the company of his satyrs. Anyway; it`s described as above at the exhibition but without any further explanations, which here are really of need.

For the first, the tripod (your "pot") is deformed on purpose to show as if an inner view of a womb. And this little figure seems rather to be an EMBRYO of Dionysos still within the womb and not a suckling, right? Then, there are those brown crossed stripes upon him... what the heck is all that!? A SOURCE of the Matrix!?... Here I must leave you alone, face to face with the secrets of the orgiastic Thyiades (http://www.theoi.com/Nymphe/NympheThyia.html) and their Womb of the Wombs.

Fig.3 - The inner parts of the Korykian Cave

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That humble ceramic likeness of the embrionic Dionysos has originated probably under early Christian period as part of the continuation of local cultic practices, centered around Delphyne and Her progeny. And still; the knowledge of the "hidden world" encoded within this item, seems to be much much older than that...

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 New Message Posted!2010-11-24 17:36   
Vlad,
The stick like figure painted on Your pot is how I actually visually see people at certain sites, they are exactly as many petroglyphs show.
I cannot achieve this by anything but accident, though i am doing it more frequently, it is a bit strange.
They are always black with a multi coloured glowing field eminating from them.
I should be noting times etc, but it is so surprising to suddenly see in this manner that I forget.
Maybe I need to start taking different coloured pills???
cropredy

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 New Message Posted!2010-11-24 14:19   
Just to finalize my input, here come two photos dealing with the child-energy in Nature. (yang-within-yin in Chinese geomancy)

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Fig.2
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Well; as you now can see, I`m not talking about any products of my imagination. There are ancient allegoric models preserved (Fig.1) - maybe once used to teach new adepts of this natural "gnosis". And there are still existing people around, who can sense (Fig.2) this kind of psychoenergies in Nature. (Yellow-stone roundish area has a symbol of foetus inside, corresponding to Fig.1. White-stone areas around are perceived as "yin", forming a summaric "womb")


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 New Message Posted!2010-11-20 10:12   
cropredy says above : - "The most I detect at any one point is 55 lines, but I am confident of finding 89 and 144." Here`s my comment to that: - With my last descriptions I aimed to say that only a small part of straight lines detected by dowsers maybe represent stable structures. The rest can be INTERMEDIARY PRODUCTS formed under decomposition of those "bags" resulting from the yin-yang interaction. It`s only a hypothese, which I am to prove, checking some secondary thin lines under longer time periods.

Well; I cannot accompany you, cropredy, in your modern-time investigations. I am trying to reconstruct the real meaning of the allegories used by our ancestors to describe hidden aspects of the world. By "real" I mean reactions of human body to some enigmatic stimuli from an environment. I assume that we`ve lost a lot of original SENSITIVITY towards those stimuli under last, say, one thousand years. It follows that any gadgets or rationalizations invented by our modern minds cannot improve the situation.

I`m looking for answers within the layers of microcosm everyone bears inside. It cannot be done with a scalpel. Critical review of some yogic techniques (yantra yoga, laya yoga, etc.) could help in transforming your body back into a geomantic tool for exploring the hidden world around you. OK. As we have here a Mystery Section, so we deserve some ENIGMAS to be served!? I do think so. Therefore; I leave up to you to decide if you want to take a lonesome walk along that Eastern-knowledge track or not.

The mystery of healing sites imo can be reduced to a presence and action upon human bodies of a special kind of natural energies. In some folk narratives, a LIVING WATER is mentioned in this context. But many examples of healing as e.g. passing a sickly child through an opening in a standing stone (popular e.g. in Bretagne), - point imo just to a non-material constituent of the pattern as its base. Female energy in Nature has been allegorically represented as "water" in many cultures. With it`s "living" character it was meant imo that it carried a "Child" (e.g. Welsh Mabon) - product of an "intercourse" of male and female energies . The presence of that "child" energy in Nature is maintained in some old narratives to be most intense around the Spring Equinox.

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On 2010-11-20 02:07, TheCaptain wrote:
I dont often come down here. Maybe I will keep it that way. But I have to say that some of the traces of the exploding turbine disc in the Qantas A380 Trent 900 engine will have looked like some of these last (random) drawings. Lots of straight lines smashing through curved surfaces.

Make of that what you will.



captain,
I was at one time welding engineer for a company that made turbine parts for RR, I had use of their electron microscopes, I wish I had known then what I do now.
Wear is always the worry, and We used to hard face things with cobalt materials.
I have a different understanding of wear now, especially if You follow Hutchinson and His methods of transmutation of materials with sound.
It is very difficult to try and comprehend of a universal substance that is omni present, and that all things in creation are merely re-orientations of that one substance , and this is where the speed of re-orientation is limited and leads to what We call wear.

You have descended into the mysteries section remember.
cropredy

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 New Message Posted!2010-11-20 02:07   
I dont often come down here. Maybe I will keep it that way. But I have to say that some of the traces of the exploding turbine disc in the Qantas A380 Trent 900 engine will have looked like some of these last (random) drawings. Lots of straight lines smashing through curved surfaces.

Make of that what you will.

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 New Message Posted!2010-11-20 01:23   
I can't see it either, oh well...

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 New Message Posted!2010-11-20 00:03   
Here's a visual link to try and better demonstrate about how different dimensions exist in the self same local, and that each dimension will not see the other one, but by locally turning the field direction then a trip across from one dimension to the next can be achieved, and it is this journey that is involved in birth and death, and our ancestors knew how to manipulate that with carefully positioned artifacts.
This is how light and many other forces are travelling , and how by manipulating these forces healing could be achieved by ensuring that the human beings were subjected to an uplift in the two spin charges, basically charging you up like a battery.
Your physical body is a fully self repairing vehicle as long as it has suffiecient charge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UnU_qL18EA

light is in other dimensions, and transfers into this reality as the substance of universe is turned by the interacting fields, it is not travelling from the sun, it is the field of the sun causing the substance to be turned in tandem with it's opposite field from this planet.
The illusion is at ninty degrees to this and appears to be linear beams from the sun.
cropredy

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