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 New Message Posted!2010-11-10 23:16   

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On 2010-11-10 15:58, bburdetteva wrote:
My experiences have not reached the 'shocking' or 'thrown body' levels, but I have definitely experienced unusual warmth and tingling sensations from touching various stones over the years. This was particularly true during my visit inside the chamber at Loughcrew and, more recently, at sites in Kerry.



Hi, I would be interested to hear of your visits to sites in Kerry.
I spend most of my spare time traipsing round the County and it's good to hear other peoples perspectives.

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 New Message Posted!2010-11-10 15:58   
My experiences have not reached the 'shocking' or 'thrown body' levels, but I have definitely experienced unusual warmth and tingling sensations from touching various stones over the years. This was particularly true during my visit inside the chamber at Loughcrew and, more recently, at sites in Kerry.

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 New Message Posted!2010-06-18 00:51   
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On 2010-06-17 08:49, AngieLake wrote:
I agree with Frogcottage and Cerrig, and must also add that I've never found a stone that gave me vibrations or threw me back, though I've heard people talk about this on the odd occasion.
As we mentioned in another thread, Rune, there was that tall stone at Clava Cairns with a small crystal that - when I placed my hand over it - did give me a strange sensation that was more mental than physical, but otherwise, nothing.

You'd think I'd be more sensitive if I dowse, yet in the past I've tried dowsing for the separate horizontal 'energy bands' in standing stones, and not had much luck!
(People who can do this generally hold the open palm of one hand a couple of inches away from the face of the stone while holding their rod or pendulum in the other. As they gradually move the 'sensing' hand up [or down?] near the face of the stone, they get a reaction with their dowsing tool, indicating to them that they've located an 'energy' band.)

The 'memories' captured in these places would be something I pick up on though, if my ritual movement dowsing results are, indeed, a record of those pathways made by their ancient users, so I'm content to be shown that instead.



I think that's great that you can sense that Angie, we are all different and it should be celebrated, we shouldn't have the idea that we're not doing it right if we don't have a certain reaction.

But I'd still love to have a blast from a stone that could physically propel me some feet away.

Rune

[ This message was edited by: Runemage on 2010-06-18 00:55 ]

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 New Message Posted!2010-06-18 00:46   
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On 2010-06-17 07:32, frogcottage42 wrote:
Hi Rune, I will have to dig out some of our photos from the pre digital era as there are a couple which picked up odd phenomena.
At nine stones in Dorset my wife hugged the biggest rock nearest the gate and in the photo she came out sharp but the rock has a distinct fuzzy aura around it. I have similar photos from other sites but nothing as clear.
I mention this here because she felt nothing odd at the time other than the unusual warmth we nearly always notice at these stones.
Cerrig's point seems to confirm to me that it is the difference in the way we observe the feelings at these sites that colours our descriptions and that many people are probably experiencing things that they do not notice or do not recognise in context.
I believe that it is the energy from the countless contact over millennia that imparts a kind of residual ambience to these sites in the same way that much visited buildings that have no spiritual importance to me personally *( like Cathedrals etc.) have a noticeable character that envelops the visitor.
The fact that sensitive people who could detect places that already displayed these energies may have played a part in their situation and could act to amplify these effects to the point where someone immersing themselves in the idea could actually experience a real shock?
I'm waffling now, best go![ This message was edited by: frogcottage42 on 2010-06-17 07:39 ]



Hi Frogcottage,
Oh yes please, any photos of stones with strange things would be most welcome. We have a Spirit of Place gallery if you think they'd be appropriate there?

Glad you've noticed the warmth of/near the stones, quite a shock the first time, isn't it? I've burbled on in my reply to Cerrig about experience and interpretation, we all seem to be agreeing on that.

Please do carry on waffling, it's surprising how many ideas turn up when we get into that state of being.

Rune

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 New Message Posted!2010-06-18 00:32   
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On 2010-06-17 01:26, cerrig wrote:
Rune, I think it's maybe a case of official guides being unwilling to be associated with anything out of the norm. Maen Llia is a case in point here. The official stance is that it is probably a way marker, presumably for very short sited unpopular people, as it's 12 feet tall and 9 1/2 feet wide,so not easily missed, and if you followed it's line North you would quickly fall over a cliff.
But there is a regular tour bus that stops there,(not looking for directions) and the lady guide takes her customers to the stone and gets them to feel the "Energies". I personally don't feel anything energetic in any stones I've felt up, which is generally my experiences elsewhere too, but that's another story.
I've always felt that these places had a story to tell, rather than energies or powers. It seems to me that they are trying to pass on knowledge rather than tingles, but like I say I don't detect anything other than the feeling of a kind of knowing being present. It's difficult to describe it, physical sensations would be easier and more definite. Maybe the people who can sense energies in stones are feeling the same as me in a different form?



Ah, very good observation Cerrig, the official stance often imparts that sort of information.

As to what we feel or pick up when we're at a site... a little allegory first...in ancient medical systems, they don't give a one size fits all remedy for a symptom, first they determine what type of person the patient is, there are five main categories with several overlapping bits. The patient is then treated with herbs etc. that are best suited to the category that person falls into.
I think it's similar with stones and sites as well. We don't all experience a site in the same way but there are a few categories of experience that we can fall into. Also, it depends where we're at in our personal development and mindset as to what we can interpret from what we experience at a site. I find it fascinating always to listen to other peoples' interpretations, some are similar to mine and others are very different but when we all pool ideas and experiences, we get a grasp of the magnitude of experience that can be generated by visiting a single place.

I would say definitely, people who are experiencing energies are getting what you are getting in a different form. As are people who are enjoying the view or others who enjoy the silence and those who feel the place gives them the creeps. Same thing, different individual interpretations.

Vive la difference!

Rune

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 New Message Posted!2010-06-17 08:49   
I agree with Frogcottage and Cerrig, and must also add that I've never found a stone that gave me vibrations or threw me back, though I've heard people talk about this on the odd occasion.
As we mentioned in another thread, Rune, there was that tall stone at Clava Cairns with a small crystal that - when I placed my hand over it - did give me a strange sensation that was more mental than physical, but otherwise, nothing.

You'd think I'd be more sensitive if I dowse, yet in the past I've tried dowsing for the separate horizontal 'energy bands' in standing stones, and not had much luck!
(People who can do this generally hold the open palm of one hand a couple of inches away from the face of the stone while holding their rod or pendulum in the other. As they gradually move the 'sensing' hand up [or down?] near the face of the stone, they get a reaction with their dowsing tool, indicating to them that they've located an 'energy' band.)

The 'memories' captured in these places would be something I pick up on though, if my ritual movement dowsing results are, indeed, a record of those pathways made by their ancient users, so I'm content to be shown that instead.

frogcottage42



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 New Message Posted!2010-06-17 07:32   
Hi Rune, I will have to dig out some of our photos from the pre digital era as there are a couple which picked up odd phenomena.
At nine stones in Dorset my wife hugged the biggest rock nearest the gate and in the photo she came out sharp but the rock has a distinct fuzzy aura around it. I have similar photos from other sites but nothing as clear.
I mention this here because she felt nothing odd at the time other than the unusual warmth we nearly always notice at these stones.
Cerrig's point seems to confirm to me that it is the difference in the way we observe the feelings at these sites that colours our descriptions and that many people are probably experiencing things that they do not notice or do not recognise in context.
I believe that it is the energy from the countless contact over millennia that imparts a kind of residual ambience to these sites in the same way that much visited buildings that have no spiritual importance to me personally *( like Cathedrals etc.) have a noticeable character that envelops the visitor.
The fact that sensitive people who could detect places that already displayed these energies may have played a part in their situation and could act to amplify these effects to the point where someone immersing themselves in the idea could actually experience a real shock?
I'm waffling now, best go!

[ This message was edited by: frogcottage42 on 2010-06-17 07:39 ]

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 New Message Posted!2010-06-17 01:26   
Rune, I think it's maybe a case of official guides being unwilling to be associated with anything out of the norm. Maen Llia is a case in point here. The official stance is that it is probably a way marker, presumably for very short sited unpopular people, as it's 12 feet tall and 9 1/2 feet wide,so not easily missed, and if you followed it's line North you would quickly fall over a cliff.
But there is a regular tour bus that stops there,(not looking for directions) and the lady guide takes her customers to the stone and gets them to feel the "Energies". I personally don't feel anything energetic in any stones I've felt up, which is generally my experiences elsewhere too, but that's another story.
I've always felt that these places had a story to tell, rather than energies or powers. It seems to me that they are trying to pass on knowledge rather than tingles, but like I say I don't detect anything other than the feeling of a kind of knowing being present. It's difficult to describe it, physical sensations would be easier and more definite. Maybe the people who can sense energies in stones are feeling the same as me in a different form?

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 New Message Posted!2010-06-16 22:43   
Am I the only one to find this odd, that stones that have these sorts of properties and are in easily accessible locations aren't more widely publicised in tour guides etc.

Rune



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 New Message Posted!2010-06-15 01:04   
Yes Angie, I saw the news at the time. A well liked and respected man judging by the posts about it. I'm sorry I never got to meet him . The trip I was on was last August, so I don't know if it was ill health or something else. Whatever the reason I definitely missed out, although the chap that stood in did a pretty good job of it.

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