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Andy B
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|  New Message Posted!2010-03-09 19:10
Look, "it" is even Tweeting
http://twitter.com/thelondonstone
This just gets stranger...
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Andy B
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| New Message Posted!2010-03-09 19:08
Well, yeah, but I think it's moved around the Cannon St locality in the past and I get the impression the museum would make sure it gets put back. I will enquire next month but it appears there is nothing doing at the moment due to the depressed economic situation. There is a massive development going on opposite above Cannon St station so I doubt even more office space is needed.
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BERNARDQUATERMASS
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|  New Message Posted!2010-03-09 18:38
Can I get this straight?
For thousands of years distances in Britain have been measured from this stone?
Now, some developer intends shifting it, because it's position is inconvenient?
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Andy B
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| New Message Posted!2010-03-09 17:07
Yes I'll say hello at any rate. I've put the London Stone page in the news and changed the 'Ambience' score from 2 to 1 (Awful) as the shop has closed down. Thanks to Phill for setting us on the way to this one.
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Runemage
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| New Message Posted!2010-03-09 10:43
I'm glad I'm not the only one who misses things going on right under their nose!
That lecture on Tues April 13th sounds interesting, it will be good to know the stone's documented history as well as all the supposition.
If it's a good lecture, you could always invite John Clark to do a writeup for the London Stone site page....
There's an image of it taken from inside the store here http://www.whataboutclients.com/archives/47356.jpg
Rune
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Andy B
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| New Message Posted!2010-03-09 01:34
I found this:
Clark, J, 2007, ‘London Stone: the Welsh connection’, Folklore Society News, 51, pp3-4
and, erm, this about the eponymous bar next door
http://fancyapint.co.uk/pubs/pub485.php
More tomfoolery from the Eerie pub chain. Gargoyles, cocktails in test tubes and other assorted horror ephemera, add up to a pub not far off a novelty bar at a holiday camp. You can imagine these sorts of pubs winning over wet-eared freshers in a University town, but this one manages to do a fair trade in the City of London. Perhaps more bizarrely, it's actually named for the London Stone, which is set into the front of the Sportec sports shop just two doors away. This fragment of stone (hidden behind an ornate grill but visible from the street) is thought to go back to at least Roman times, perhaps farther, as a marker or possibly part of an ancient stone circle. Legend has it that if it ever leaves London, the city will fall. That still doesn't explain how this pub got here and, while it hypes up the horror, it's the sort of place no self-respecting Goth would be seen dead in.
I was just about to give up when I found this
http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/English/EventsExhibitions/Events/eventDetails.htm?eventID=2460
London Stone: making a myth
Type: Lecture
Programme: Adult Programme Feb - Apr 2010
Duration: 1 hour 30 minutes
Location: Museum of London
Part of the "LAMAS Lectures " series of events
Description
Join the London and Middlesex Archaeological Society (LAMAS) for a monthly lecture detailing exciting recent research on London's archaeology and history. Todays speaker will be John Clark, former Senior Curator (Medieval)at Museum of London
Dates and times
* Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 18:30 - 20:00
http://www.lamas.org.uk/
London Stone: Making a Myth
John Clark, formerly Senior Curator (Medieval), Museum of London
John Clark has recently retired from a long and distinguished career as Senior Curator (Medieval) at the Museum of London. In this talk he investigates the strange history of London Stone, the mysterious block of limestone that currently sits, ignored by passers-by, in an alcove in the wall of a building opposite Cannon Street Station. Already a subject of speculation in the 16th century, subsequently identified in turn as a Roman milestone, as a Druid monument, as the 'Stone of Brutus' and as 'London's original fetish stone', it is now considered by some to play an essential role in the 'sacred geometry' of London. How have such diverse opinions as to its purpose arisen? - and can we truly identify its date and its original function?
Sounds like they're building us up with something very exciting only to have a very boring reality, (you know a bit like the end of an episode of Scooby Doo)
I'll try and go to this...
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Andy B
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| New Message Posted!2010-03-09 01:15
Thanks, I've visited that museum last year. It's all very good if you're interested in dockish type things, ships and slavery but one measly cabinet on prehistory with a few of the usual bits and bobs as far as I remember. Good model of the old London Bridge. Great shame we missed that event as I would have publicised it and probably gone along. I usually hear about these things after they happen. There was a tour to some bits of Roman building found in a pipe trench right opposite our house that I found out about a month too late as well!
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| New Message Posted!2010-03-08 14:11
Sorry, I hadn't realised the shop housing it had already closed. I'm sure something's been put into place for its permanent relocation, but I'm not sure what. Google hasn't turned up a great deal.
On Sunday 17th Jan, the Museum of London in docklands had this as an event that day in their storytelling for families section.
"The London Stone mystery at Museum of London
Discover the secrets of this mystical stone. In this spellbinding storytelling session you will discover the story of the stone and how it might decide London's future."
There's also a link under that paragraph "More about "The London Stone mystery" but it only goes to a blank what's on page, presumably because it's a past event.
The link in my previous post ended with saying the stone would go to "The London Museum" which I'd guess would be the Docklands Museum of London.
There's a comprehensive contacts page if anyone's interested in following-up exactly what's about to happen to the stone in the short and long-term future.
Rune
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Andy B
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| New Message Posted!2010-03-06 15:01
I think the shop has shut down, it wasn't open when I visited and looks shut on the Google Earth image. The light in the stone cabinet wasn't on either.
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Runemage
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| New Message Posted!2010-03-06 10:00
"There is short scene in Rupert Soskins DVD, "Standing with Stones", that is dedicated to the London Stone.
Yes, and if you go inside the shop, there's the stone on view in a glass-fronted cabinet.
http://www.urban75.org/london/the-london-stone.html
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