On 2010-02-02 12:17, Runemage wrote:
I am just as irked about the apparrent lack of transparency as you Karloff, if something's been detected then the actual findings ought to be put on display in a proper fashion.

There is a lot of anecdote about stones having the 'force' to repel some people I thought Sam Osman's account was good because primarily, although she felt nothing when it was her turn, some of the group did, which any sceptic would automatically dismiss as a case of auto-suggestion. But...she later took her family there and didn't mention anything about the stone's effects to them. She and her son felt nothing whereas her daughter and husband did.
If it was within easy travelling distance from here I'd have been there like a shot to have a go myself.

I know Avebury is local to lots of our readers and was hoping someone knew which stone this referred to and would take some friends and give it a try next time they were there. I know that would implement the auto-suggestion explanation, but it would be an interesting exercise nevertheless.

Rune

On 2010-02-02 11:05, karloff wrote:
Hi
The problem with this Rune is that it’s all codswallop! There are no anomalous radiation signatures at the Sanctuary nor are there electromagnetic forces strong enough to physically push somebody at Avebury. If there were then the magnetometry surveys wouldn't work because EM of that strength would render it useless. Also EM surveys have taken place at Avebury and DO NOT show any unusual EM signatures.

It seems strange that when its non-government agencies such as the National Trust carry out these surveys they get pretty conventional results but when its people selling a book, or with an agenda to "prove" earth energies they get these really strange results. Weirdly the EH and NT etc surveys can be viewed by researchers so can actually be examined, the more alternative surveys are (of course) only stated in books (or websites) as "facts" but the actual data is not produced.

Of course I wouldn’t suggest that the £30 per head charged for some of the tours has anything to do with promulgating outlandish stories, and I would never imply that people are simply profiteering rather than carrying out research.

On 2010-02-02 10:03, Runemage wrote:
In Andy's feature on the Quicksilver book in the News section, in the interview with the author, Sam Osman, there's a fascinating snippet about a stone at Avebury.

"AB: What other favourite ancient sites do you have?

SO: One of the inspirations for the story was the notion that a number of sites as important as Avebury (which is one of my favourites) may have been destroyed and forgotten, leaving traces of their power in the urban landscape.

AB: Have you had any interesting experiences at any?

SO: As part of the research for Quicksilver I went on a dowsing field trip around Avebury. The guide pointed out a stone which was said to have spiral energies swirling up through its core and warned us that if we touched it the current would fling us aside. Lots of the people on the trip touched the stone and were literally hurled about. I touched it and (as always) felt absolutely nothing. At lunchtime I met up with my family. As an experiment I told them to touch the stone without explaining that it was supposed to have any particular properties. My son, like me, felt nothing. But my husband, who is hugely sceptical about such things and my daughter felt a violent charge that almost knocked them over. My husband attributed it to the vibrations of the passing traffic!"

Does anyone know which stone this is? Has it happened to you?

It could well have been this company that took Sam on the tour, they appear to have found lots of electro-magnetic anomalies.
http://www.theaveburyexperience.co.uk/megalithic.html

"Using highly sensitive electromagnetic detecting equipment, Maria Wheatley, Rodney Hale and Busty Taylor successfully located and recorded the strong electromagnetic signals which are emitted by the standing stones. Remarkably, these signals corresponded to the 'energy bands' that dowsers are familiar with. (See illustration right). We believe we are the first researchers who have recorded such a phenomenon, which proves that mysterious energies at sites such as Avebury exist.
The authors also picked up strange magnetic frequencies which are associated with the 'Mary' earth energy line and they have discovered its frequency level. Intriguingly, at the centre of the southern stone circle, whilst recording the harmonic frequency level of the Mary and Michael energy lines, a powerful force blew their equipment and they suspect it was the earth energies causing the equipment to malfunction!

Mysterious radiation levels at the Sanctuary, Avebury.
Even stranger signals were recorded at the Sanctuary, which was once an integral part of the vast Avebury Stone Temple. The team investigated the stone circle for radiation levels. The results are startling as they reveal exceptional high levels of radiation at the exact centre of the monument. Curiously, outside of the stone circle the radiation levels fall dramatically. It's as if you can step into and out of the radiation."

Of course, it's a 'buy the book to find out more' line, but from the above, it does look as though they have some documented readings. Not only of electro-magnetism but also of harmonic resonance.

Rune

...I know of the Dragon Project but there seems to be very little information that has been cross-checked by different agencies.

...The Rollrights are owned by a Trust but they don't have the funding to employ people 24/7 to keep the site secure.

If someone or a group of people could go to the site every day at certain times and set up the equipment, then it would be possible to get the data.
That's the sort of thing the Dragon Project tried to organise, but as always, because it's dependent on unpaid volunteers, some are more methodical and reliable than others.