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frogcottage42
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|  New Message Posted!2010-09-09 00:00
I am a little confused why so many people seem bothered by an apparently impossible bomb detector but not at all concerned over the very efficient and well proven military hardware which is being sold to these people for staggering profit.
Why should we be surprised to see fraud and profiteering in an arena which was created for the financial benefit of Dick Cheney and pals at the cost of tens of thousands of Iraqis?
If we stopped selling them explosives they wouldn't need bomb detectors.
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Dowser
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| New Message Posted!2010-09-08 22:40
http://www.phact.org/e/z/dowsepro.bak
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bat400
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| On 2010-01-24 15:31, Chyknel2 wrote:
Ok. But one point I'd like to make. People who control multi-million pound military buying budgets tend not to be daft. I don't see this as a case of such people being fooled. |
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There's a saying we have in the old country ... "Follow the money".
There is speculation in blogs following the ADE device that there are personal connections between the Iraqi's who have ordered the device and the distributors. (Although I've yet to see reputable reports of anyone connecting the dots between buying these things and kickbacks.)
Corruption continues to be a major concern in "developing countries", including Iraq and Thailand.
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/11/18/60389.html
http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=255211200026
Someone is making a lot of money on these things, and its not only the people manufacturing them. Distributors, evaluators, commodity buyers, finance departments - the chances for "value added" additions to the price are legion. The Iraqis are apparently buying these things for up to $60,000 each. The guy arrested in the UK this last week was selling them for considerably less.
Yes, someone probably understands that these things are worthless. But their love of money is taking advantage of "believers", even their own countrymen. (Who else are the primary targets of frauds and the corrupt?)
It was ever thus, but this case is just more disgusting than usual.
I'd like to see Jim McCormick charged with negligent homicide for his depraved indifference, along with any of his co-conspirators. Or, send him and his "team" to a mine field with the device and appropriate cards. He deserves to be kept there until he finds them all. Or, just the first one.
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Chyknel2
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| New Message Posted!2010-01-24 16:46
!!!!!!
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Andy B
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| New Message Posted!2010-01-24 16:23
>Well there is a possible explanation but I don't suppose Andy would wish anyone to voice it directly.
Backhanders? Go on, try us
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Dowser
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One experienced expert ,and press, claimed (without any proof) that: -on that basis, this device - "a plastic box that was held in the hand that had a moveable rod attached to it" - is indeed a dowsing device, no different from any other and equally effective
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Chyknel2
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| New Message Posted!2010-01-24 15:56
Well there is a possible explanation but I don't suppose Andy would wish anyone to voice it directly.
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Runemage
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On 2010-01-24 15:31, Chyknel2 wrote:
Ok. But one point I'd like to make. People who control multi-million pound military buying budgets tend not to be daft. I don't see this as a case of such people being fooled.
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This is what's baffling me as well.
Either they have all been deceived by an absolute master of the art, someone more skilled than say Derren Brown, which is highly unlikely, or there are other factors which haven't been made public.
At the moment, the story just doesn't stack up.
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Runemage
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| New Message Posted!2010-01-24 15:34
Good Grief!
thanks Andy, Yes, I see now, I've not had time today yet to read any papers. I'm left speechless by the second report.... it certainly seems like some sort of face-saving exercise.
I'm still at a loss as to how no-one took one to bits to find out how it worked. Even business competitors were sure to get their hands on one, they could have decried it years ago. I can't be the only one here who does that, surely? I can still remember how aghast I was when I took the cover off the computer tower which is about 20 ins high by 7 ins wide by as deep as the desk to find three small fans, acres of empty space and a few small plastic boards with chips and solder on them! But at least I had a product at the other end of it that worked (albeit temperamentally!)
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| New Message Posted!2010-01-24 15:31
Ok. But one point I'd like to make. People who control multi-million pound military buying budgets tend not to be daft. I don't see this as a case of such people being fooled.
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