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cerrig
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|  New Message Posted!2010-01-10 17:57
The other 6 stones are all slab like. they are much the same in size regarding width and thickness. The main difference being the lengths. they probably all came from the same bedding plane.
The red sandstone, being a more rounded boulder shape on one side,and being quite flat on the other,seems to show signs that it may have been worked. there are no tool marks i know of,but the difference from one side to the other is striking. It would seem to show to me that the rounded western face is what you would expect to find on a stone that has been exposed on the surface for some time,possibly even in a stream or river. The flattened Eastern face is quite different.It is very flat,and vertical in its setting. The northern sighting along this side is to the pass through the hills,and the southern sighting is to the crest of a small flattish hill.This stone has something quite deliberate about it.
I can't come up with a good reason for it's inclusion in the row,unless it's got a story to tell.
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| New Message Posted!2010-01-10 16:03
Right , as it's part of the row the most obvious indication is along the row itself .There are some examples of "playing card " type stones providing an obvious orienation but they are not usually accepted and are very difficult to prove re. intention . If you chose every stone in the row you would manage to find some meaningful alignment but was it intended ? The same might apply to the row itself but it is more salient.
George
[/quote]i can see the logic there george,the row would be more believable as a pointer,fair enough. It's the oddity of the red stone that interests me particularly here. It stands out as being different, there has to be a reason for that.
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i agree , the others have flatter faces too ,judging by the pics .
George
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cerrig
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| New Message Posted!2010-01-10 13:56
Right , as it's part of the row the most obvious indication is along the row itself .There are some examples of "playing card " type stones providing an obvious orienation but they are not usually accepted and are very difficult to prove re. intention . If you chose every stone in the row you would manage to find some meaningful alignment but was it intended ? The same might apply to the row itself but it is more salient.
George
[/quote]i can see the logic there george,the row would be more believable as a pointer,fair enough. It's the oddity of the red stone that interests me particularly here. It stands out as being different, there has to be a reason for that.
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tiompan
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| New Message Posted!2010-01-09 14:15
Right , as it's part of the row the most obvious indication is along the row itself .There are some examples of "playing card " type stones providing an obvious orienation but they are not usually accepted and are very difficult to prove re. intention . If you chose every stone in the row you would manage to find some meaningful alignment but was it intended ? The same might apply to the row itself but it is more salient.
George
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cerrig
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| New Message Posted!2010-01-09 12:38
hi george
it's the red sandstone boulder in the row that interests me,it's eastern face seems to be pointing at something(40/220 deg)
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/a558/a312/gallery/wales/glamorgan/Saith_Maen_West_066_copy.jpg
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On 2010-01-09 00:56, cerrig wrote:
george,
could this stone be pointing at the winter solstice sunset,it's close now,but in the past it may have been closer. i don't have the means to check back myself.
cerrig
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Sorry Cerrig but not sure which stone you mean . Solstice alignments are hardly affected by precession so any changes will be minimal .
George
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george,
could this stone be pointing at the winter solstice sunset,it's close now,but in the past it may have been closer. i don't have the means to check back myself.
cerrig
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The alignment would seem to be to the point where the mound meets the skyline. This is to an area that has been quarried so if there was any other kind of marker then it has almost certainly gone now. But i don't think there was anything there. This use of converging skylines is something that i've noticed elsewhere and wondered about. It seems to be widespread in the Beacons,but difficult to prove as such. I am hoping to add a new site soon that should show just this useage,if the sun will shine for me this year that is.
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=a312&file=index&do=showpic&pid=54094&orderby=
this is the red sandstone boulder showing its sighting to the pass through the hills.This stone is unlike any of the others there. The other 6 stones are all much the same width and thickness,just different lengths. The red stone is a short stubby boulder with a flattened vertical side.
I have mistakenly described the grey stones as sandstone,when they are in fact "carboniferous silicious grit". I also claimed Saith Maen for Glamorgan when it's in Breckonshire(Powys),so no prizes for research there.
The bearing suggested by the stone is approx. 40deg true.
cerrig
[ This message was edited by: cerrig on 2010-01-05 17:10 ]
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That's it Cerrig , if there is a stone marking that point I would imagine it's fortuitous as most stone rows don't have outliers with possible astro oreinations don't have ouliers , but you never know .
George
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http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=a312&file=index&do=showpic&pid=54092&orderby=dateD
This is the view that George identified as having a possible lunar standstill alignment. It would seem that if that was the case then the mound to the left was a deliberate inclusion in it.
This mound has 2 cairns,and a curious single red sandstone boulder(it's the only one on the mound).
cerrig 
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