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Forum: Stones Forum
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archaeo
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|  New Message Posted!2009-12-23 22:48
More now online at:
Ancient Astronomy, Integers, Great Ratios, and Aristarchos
http://jqjacobs.net/astro/aristarchos.html
As to sorting wheat and chaff "around here," that is not my profession. If those reading news here can't do that for themselves, too bad. Maybe the article will aid them. The facts speak for themselves.
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davidmorgan
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| New Message Posted!2009-12-14 10:14
That sounds good - some real mysteries for the Mysteries Forum for a change.
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bat400
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| New Message Posted!2009-12-13 19:25
"archaeo" doesn't post often in the Portal's Forum, but the photos, summaries of history and location data Jacobs has been posting for years on his own websites has been a boon to archaeology buffs using the web as a resource.
He doesn't posit any "supernatural" abilities for ancient man (at least not that I've seen) but he does theorize that some ancient cultures had an understanding of astronomy and the "size" of the earth that exceeds what most scholars would credit.
(I myself find it very hard to imagine construction projects in the ancient world based on some of the locational data that he suggests, even if the ancients were aware of it. (And no, I haven't gone through his website trying to show that his equations are in error.))
As far as "geodesy" goes, his arguments are out in left field, but he is not alone in observing some obvious "mysteries" like the Chaco Meridian. Did the Ancestral Puebloans of the Chaco Culture understand that so many of their building projects were sited on this longitude heading? As a coincidence, its rather surprising.
That is an example of a true "mystery" of archaeology - not a concocted mystery that is actually an impossibility or has already been proven false.
[ This message was edited by: bat400 on 2009-12-13 19:28 ]
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cerrig
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| New Message Posted!2009-12-13 12:16
archaeo
come down to the mystery's section mate,and leave the chaff behind you.we bake a mean loaf down there, top quality ingredients see.
gwynt melin
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davidmorgan
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| New Message Posted!2009-12-13 10:56
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I expected someone would comment on the import of the news. Perhaps you did not understand that either??
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I think your expectations are a little too high. You haven't really judged your audience properly. You've appeared out of nowhere like a pantomime wizard in a flash-bang-wallop of blinding science (and pseudo-science - re that latitude of the Ur ziggurat equation).
Someone once said to Stephen Hawking, about his Brief History of Time, the less equations you put in the more readers you'll get.
I, for one, won't be wading through your website.
By "around here", I mean in the "Stones" forum of this website, rather than the "Mysteries" forum.
I'm sorry to sound harsh, but we get so many newbies appearing on these forums claiming to have discovered lost knowledge that it's difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff. And in my opinion you've shown your true colours with that ridiculous Ur equation.
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archaeo
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| New Message Posted!2009-12-12 17:58
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davidmorgan wrote: ... do you really expect us to take you seriously when you say "Divide earth's circumference by days per solar orbit (0.98561° = SO), multiply by 10 pi, and the result is the latitude of the Ur ziggurat, or 30.9638° = 31.4159 SO"?
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Of course I expect it to be taken seriously, and how it is taken by YOU (or "around here") does not factor into my work. If the import of the module is elusive at first, I suggest continued study and consideration.
I expected someone would comment on the import of the news. Perhaps you did not understand that either??
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davidmorgan
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| New Message Posted!2009-12-08 16:51
James, do you really expect us to take you seriously when you say "Divide earth's circumference by days per solar orbit (0.98561° = SO), multiply by 10 pi, and the result is the latitude of the Ur ziggurat, or 30.9638° = 31.4159 SO"?
That's just numerological woo around here.
Nice to see that you're into eclipses, though. I've witnessed a whole exeligmos of saros 136 eclipses (only partially in '73) - but looking forward to Luxor in 2027.
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archaeo
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| New Message Posted!2009-12-08 15:11
Using my new applet, Epoch v2009, I examined integer period eclipse interval ratios cited in Greek and Babylonian astronomy history. I noticed some sidereal ratios more precise than the ratios considered significant by current historians of astronomy. I employed epoch -432 values (Meton's solstice observation era). From my domain:
"I examined the 126,007 day (+/- 345 years) eclipse interval known to the Ancient Greeks and Babylonians. Previous authors have noted the 4267 synodic lunar periods equates with 4573 anomalistic periods. In Epoch v2009, I also readily noticed the sidereal integral correspondence with 126,352 rotations. The periods are compared in Table 10 ..."
Eclipses, Cosmic Clockwork of the Ancients
http://jqjacobs.net/astro/eclipse.html
126,007 days : 126,352 rotations =
1.0 : 1.000 000 140
126,352 rotations : 4267 lunar synodic =
1.0 : 1.000 000 204
126,007 days : 4267 lunar synodic =
1.0 : 1.000 000 343
4573 anomalistic : 4267 lunar synodic =
1.0 : 1.000 000 811
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"Aristarchus' "Great Year" of +/- 4868 years presents a very accurate (one part in 13 billion) integer ratio for days with rotations. The lowest integer ratio is for one-fourth of the "Great Year" interval and equals 1,217 solar orbits."
445,734.0 rotations = 444,516.99997 days
444,517.0 : 444,516.99997 =
1.0 : 1.000 000 000 08
445,734.0 rotations = 1,217.00003 orbits
1,217.00003 : 1,217.0 =
1. : 1.000 000 028
Download epoch_v2009.xls here:
http://jqjacobs.net/astro/
This repeats recent findings of significant sidereal intervals in Maya astronomy.
The Dresden Codex Lunar Series and Sidereal Astronomy
http://jqjacobs.net/archaeology/maya_astronomy.html
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