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chimera

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| New Message Posted!2009-09-21 07:51  
The square and circle combine in the Turoe stone (circular) amid the 4 kingdoms of Eire, as with the Stone of Scone. That (alleged) Stone in Scotland in Perthshire was amid the 4 Provinces of the Ulster descendants, as with Forteviot stone chamber with a possible phallus. The Kermaria erection exposes the 4 sided nature of the cosmos.
The 4 stones are mutually consistent.
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tiompan

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| New Message Posted!2009-09-19 09:18  
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On 2009-09-19 08:05, vlad wrote:
An astounding example of equal chances for all those possibilities can be found in the last English publication of M.Gimbutas - "The Living Goddesses" (Univ. of Chicago Press; 2001), p. 37. It comes from the Starcevo culture (Hungary) and has been dated to 5600 - 5300 BCE.
The figure has additionaly a bird predator incised over her VULVA, which can lead back to vultures of the Catal huyuk culture. Male features are as if secondary. "Fig.31.
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The page nos and fig nos are obviously entirely different in the earlier edition of the book .
George
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vlad

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| New Message Posted!2009-09-19 08:05  
It was the controversial archaeologist of the Old Europe - Marija Gimbutas, who remarked that what seems to be a PHALLUS can be rather a schematic head of a GODDESS. Now, what`s the meaning of two rounded protrusions - are they testicles, breasts or rather steatopygic buttocks!?
An astounding example of equal chances for all those possibilities can be found in the last English publication of the deceased M.Gimbutas - "The Living Goddesses" (Univ. of Chicago Press; 2001), p. 37. It comes from the Starcevo culture (Hungary) and has been dated to 5600 - 5300 BCE. The figure has additionaly a bird predator incised over her VULVA, which can lead back to vultures of the Catal huyuk culture. Male features are as if secondary. "Fig.31. Phallic energy intensifies the strength of the formidable goddess of regeneration..." - says the authoress. It sounds like later connection between Kybele and Her Lover Attis.
I was recalling those things, when WALKING around the Mount of Sphinx (Fagas Oros) in Boeotia (Viotia), two days ago. I was just looking for the place around that mountain, at which initiation of the sacred kings of Thebes used to be performed. Oedipus came from that town and so did I. I came with the Theban Mavromati - bus along the road Athens - Livadia to the Vigla exit. There were still around 4 kms by foot to get at the Sphinx Mt. perimeter. The chapel of the Source of Life, I found there, I`ve described in the "shamen-globally acting" thread.
But it was not enough for me; I wanted to find the place, where the PRIMAEVAL IDEA of a sacred king meeting the Warden of the Source of Life - was still hanging in the thin air. Starting information was that Herodotos in his (?) "Shield" ascribed the Presence of Zeus to the top of that mountain. Then; in the result of a right answer given by Oedipus to the famous Sphinx question about the two-, three- and the four-legged human being, She threw herself down but imo not to commit the mythical suicide. That could have been rather a later-time explanation (aition), why the Sphinx - as the Black Goddess, was revered down there and not higher up the slopes, where her lair
(or layer) belonged!?
When going further on towards Kastro Davlosis (Medea - Town of the Ruleress, acc. to some archaeologists), I reached the spot, where the mountain top (Zeus Presence) came to dominate over the "parted thighs" of the Sphinx goddess. And whoops... where`s me and where`s the product of their UNION!? ... All material and verbal expressions of such an experience seem invalid. A living ancient "ex -stasis" would be still within our reach!?
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hamish

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| New Message Posted!2009-09-18 17:02  
This could become divine.
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AlbertResonox

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| New Message Posted!2009-09-18 14:36  
It's turned into a CarryOn film script...
Carry On Leying
Carry On Up The Cursus
Now over to casting............................
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mynd

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| New Message Posted!2009-09-18 13:01  
Yes - we could have had a giant cock-up on our hands.
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chimera

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| New Message Posted!2009-09-18 07:31  
At least it's not a mass debate.
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mynd

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| New Message Posted!2009-09-17 21:36  
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- hmmmm...square phallus.....
- Too much of a mouthful????
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Debate debased.
smirk
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chimera

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| New Message Posted!2009-09-17 07:55  
The world in miniature: container gardens and dwellings in Far ... - Google Books Resultby Rolf Alfred Stein - 1990 - Philosophy - 393 pages
The pillar is the linga of Shiva.194 It opens up (concealed versus revealed) ... The pillar-/i«(jd in three sections (square, octagon, sphere) has the same ...
http://books.google.com.au/books?isbn=0804716749...
Both Turoe and Kermaria have a four sided plan seen from above, combining square with circular layout
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Dowser

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| New Message Posted!2009-09-16 17:41  
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On 2009-09-16 16:29, AlbertResonox wrote:
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On 2009-09-16 16:20, Dowser wrote:
hmmmm...square phallus.....
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Too much of a mouthful????
[/quote]>------>What???
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