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 New Message Posted!2008-11-28 08:04   
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On 2008-11-27 23:05, BeardedCircle wrote:
it could me not so appropriate but here are two links where you could listen to an ancient way to sing survived in Sardinia, it's the so called "canto a tenore"

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WsB9P5ziaCM

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6QZYaS20UwU





Wonderful . Thanks .

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 New Message Posted!2008-11-28 08:02   
Hi Marco ,
I just realised it was you . Here's some UK horns (antlers) .

George

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 New Message Posted!2008-11-28 02:42   
grazie Marco,
The acciamarra/ chamarre in England was made of Angora goat-wool, "seil el kemel. khamlat". The Celts in Galatia, Asia Minor, had a fort at Angora /Ankara. Camulos may have had "acciamara" of "khamlat. camelot", across Europe. He may have danced and sung "canto a tenore" at megaliths.
The Gaulish and Brythonic God, Camulos: ChampionThe Gaulish and Brythonic God, Camulos (also known as Camulus): Champion.
http://www.celtnet.org.uk/gods_c/camulos.html - 18k - Cached - Similar pages

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 New Message Posted!2008-11-27 23:05   
it could me not so appropriate but here are two links where you could listen to an ancient way to sing survived in Sardinia, it's the so called "canto a tenore"

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WsB9P5ziaCM

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6QZYaS20UwU



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 New Message Posted!2008-11-27 22:33   
Hi Chimera,
surely your post were easy written but I'm sorry I didn't understood it very well, I'm not sure.
Do you need to know something about the Sardinian Mamuthones and the horns issue?
If so, Tiompan has posted a good link to show us their performaces (Hi Tiompan, as you might have already understood I'm Marco) but mamuthones hasn't got any horns. I haven't got a great knowledge about them but we have others masks at the sardinian carnival. Take a look to these links where you can see the "boe and merdules" which are horned zoomorphic masks. The representations show hunting scenes where some of them, called "issoccadores" catch "animals" with a rope (something like a lazo).
Be patient with me if I didn't understand and explain me better if you want to know more


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EFRJtBY4npQ

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yM3QQbet9Cg&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_k21AiLLHks&feature=related

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 New Message Posted!2008-11-27 09:43   
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On 2008-11-27 09:16, chimera wrote:
barbuto,
On a different question: do you know of "acciamara" of sheep and goat men? Did they wear horns on their head? In Spain, zamarrones wear zamarra (zimara), and had goat horns on their head. A sculptured Celtic spear-man from Rome 3rd. century BC, has goat horns.
Por favor.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NYsrOPwj-co ?

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 New Message Posted!2008-11-27 09:16   
barbuto,
On a different question: do you know of "acciamara" of sheep and goat men? Did they wear horns on their head? In Spain, zamarrones wear zamarra (zimara), and had goat horns on their head. A sculptured Celtic spear-man from Rome 3rd. century BC, has goat horns.
Por favor.

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 New Message Posted!2008-11-26 22:06   
Hi everybody,
found!
I didn’t knew if the particular kind of Sardinian giant’s tombs I was looking were possible or really existed but now I know.
Obviously I need to read more about it but there’s one of those I was thinking about in a Sardinian little village called Gonnosfanadiga. The name of the tomb is both San Cosimo or Santu Giuanni. In Sardinian there are a lot of ancient monuments called with a saint’s name, it’s because of the Church who tried for centuries to erase ancient religions.
I was looking for stone circles close to the tomb’s “esedra”, in front of the entrance.
I found one that you can see on this link

http://www.sardegnadigitallibrary.it/index.php?xsl=626&s=17&v=9&c=4461&id=103511

the sardegnadigitallibrary has got a lot of other useful images about Sardinian ancient monuments, I’m going to check what I can find about the researches and digs over that sites, I only know that some of the materials founded there now are located in the Museum of Sardara (Sardinia).


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 New Message Posted!2008-11-05 21:54   
Hi and thank you very much for all your answers,
sorry, but at the moment I'm very busy and I haven't enough time to reply to messages.
I'm going to do it as soon as possible.
by

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 New Message Posted!2008-10-28 19:44   
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On 2008-10-28 19:00, BeardedCircle wrote:
hoping to don't have done any mistake, I've added a simple scheme in the Italy area of the space reserved to submit a image.
If it's wrong I apologize, if it's a problem please delete it
thank you



Hello Beardie , your english is fine .I now realise that " Giants Tomb "is a generic name and I had only seen a plan of one therefore the remark about the equinox sun would not necessarily apply to all the tombs .having had a look a tsome examples the closest we probably "Court Tombs " found in Ireland which have a similar architecture ,as do Cotswold -Severn tombs like Stoney Litleton and horned cairns like Camster in Scotland . I don't know of ant tha thave a stone circle although some passage graves have a surrounding stone circle e.g. Clava cairns , Newgrange . We don't know the function of the court or what ceremonies ,if any , took place there but it's not an unreasonable conclusion that the court area was to allow more people to see what was going on , in some cases the horned cairns overlie older cairns that would not have allowed this access . Similarly we don't know what the drug of choice ,once again ,if any , was . There were traces of belladonna found in a pot from Balfarg but to extrapolate from that is dangerous . Sardinia has different fauna and there also might be more convincing evidence , if there is I would be interested to hear it .


George

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