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 New Message Posted!2007-12-15 21:04   
A thought on the q. about N. As a complement to the gyrating moon and sun, the pole is fixed, visible and constantly present in the sinister darkness. It suggests immortality, security and is the only definite cardinal direction (apart from Australia's Aboriginal pole). It is lineal in contrast to the sun's semi-circle, and in winter these suggest the cross shape and perhaps sexual fertility. N is good for you.

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 New Message Posted!2007-12-13 20:26   
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On 2007-11-27 18:54, ragnarok wrote:
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On 2007-11-25 10:02, JACKME wrote:
I will post a list for both Swinside and Stonehenge shortly. I failed to write down the MR of one site this week, also a bit pushed at the moment altering a lecture for next week. JACKME
[/Moon/Sun rise/set for when?
Does this rather selected 14 -14.1 km mean anything across the board? ]
By major Sun rises and sets I mean at the Solstices and Equinox at both the First Gleam and sometimes at Full Orb plus, that is when the Sun appears to have broken contact with the Earth. At Swinside with its higher sky line elevation in places they also marked the invisible with stones in the circle. Stonehenge with its near level sky line I have found no evidence of the invisible yet. The Moon at Swinside and Castlerigg mark both the Visible and the invisible with stones in the circle, skyline markers.
Swinside and Stonehenge have several places where they have marked the Standstills out at the 14-14.1kms. Jack[Moon/Sun rise/set for when?
Does this rather selected 14 -14.1 km mean anything across the board? ]

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I will post a list for both Swinside and Stonehenge shortly. I failed to write down the MR of one site this week, also a bit pushed at the moment altering a lecture for next week. JACKME



Moon/Sun rise/set for when?
Does this rather selected 14 -14.1 km mean anything across the board?

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 New Message Posted!2007-11-25 11:37   
Can I give some help on using the 'reply with quote' feature in the forum.

For this to work properly you need to have a (quote) tag at the beginning of the quote and (/quote) at the end of the quote. (I'm using round brackets instead of square brackets [ ] so you can see the tags.

Then type your reply underneath. That way you get proper quotes.
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The sites themselves are often of a minor nature, but their orienation and distance is too frequent to be dismissed as chance. JACKME
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Could you be more specific ?
[/quote]I will post a list for both Swinside and Stonehenge shortly. I failed to write down the MR of one site this week, also a bit pushed at the moment altering a lecture for next week. JACKME

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[/quote] The sites themselves are often of a minor nature, but their orienation and distance is too frequent to be dismissed as chance. JACKME
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Could you be more specific ?

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 New Message Posted!2007-11-23 19:35   
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On 2007-11-22 21:57, tiompan wrote:
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On 2007-11-22 20:55, JACKME wrote:
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On 2007-11-20 22:06, tiompan wrote:
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On 2007-11-20 21:22, JACKME wrote:


I have found many sites both for the Visible ( where the Sun or Moon rises or sets can be seen,) and the invisible, marked on the ground at 14-14.1 km from the main circles of Swinside and Stonehenge. Look on the map at these distances and you will be surprised what you see. (Prepublication data) For MR contact direct. JACKME.
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Yes , they are quite common but whether they are meaningful is the question . Of the ones that I am aware of , circa 14Km and it's multiples is no more frequent than others .
[/quote] The sites I am talking about are meaningful being extensions of the more important Sun and Moon rises and sets both the visible and the invisible. How and why did they do it? JACKME
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I was meaning the orientation from site to site being meaningful not the sites themselves . If you are thinking talking about an azimuth from one monument to another unsighted monument which coincides with the azimuth of a an important astro event like a solstice , then I doubt that it would be readily accepted by the archaeoastronomical community . Proving them to be intentional would be very difficult , personally I believe there is a possibility that they may be epiphenomenal , a by product .
[/quote] The sites themselves are often of a minor nature, but their orienation and distance is too frequent to be dismissed as chance. JACKME

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 New Message Posted!2007-11-22 21:57   
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On 2007-11-22 20:55, JACKME wrote:
[quote]
On 2007-11-20 22:06, tiompan wrote:
[quote]
On 2007-11-20 21:22, JACKME wrote:


I have found many sites both for the Visible ( where the Sun or Moon rises or sets can be seen,) and the invisible, marked on the ground at 14-14.1 km from the main circles of Swinside and Stonehenge. Look on the map at these distances and you will be surprised what you see. (Prepublication data) For MR contact direct. JACKME.
[/quote]

Yes , they are quite common but whether they are meaningful is the question . Of the ones that I am aware of , circa 14Km and it's multiples is no more frequent than others .
[/quote] The sites I am talking about are meaningful being extensions of the more important Sun and Moon rises and sets both the visible and the invisible. How and why did they do it? JACKME
[/quote]

I was meaning the orientation from site to site being meaningful not the sites themselves . If you are thinking talking about an azimuth from one monument to another unsighted monument which coincides with the azimuth of a an important astro event like a solstice , then I doubt that it would be readily accepted by the archaeoastronomical community . Proving them to be intentional would be very difficult , personally I believe there is a possibility that they may be epiphenomenal , a by product .

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 New Message Posted!2007-11-22 20:55   
Quote:

On 2007-11-20 22:06, tiompan wrote:
[quote]
On 2007-11-20 21:22, JACKME wrote:


I have found many sites both for the Visible ( where the Sun or Moon rises or sets can be seen,) and the invisible, marked on the ground at 14-14.1 km from the main circles of Swinside and Stonehenge. Look on the map at these distances and you will be surprised what you see. (Prepublication data) For MR contact direct. JACKME.
[/quote]

Yes , they are quite common but whether they are meaningful is the question . Of the ones that I am aware of , circa 14Km and it's multiples is no more frequent than others .
[/quote] The sites I am talking about are meaningful being extensions of the more important Sun and Moon rises and sets both the visible and the invisible. How and why did they do it? JACKME

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 New Message Posted!2007-11-20 22:06   
Quote:

On 2007-11-20 21:22, JACKME wrote:


I have found many sites both for the Visible ( where the Sun or Moon rises or sets can be seen,) and the invisible, marked on the ground at 14-14.1 km from the main circles of Swinside and Stonehenge. Look on the map at these distances and you will be surprised what you see. (Prepublication data) For MR contact direct. JACKME.
[/quote]

Yes , they are quite common but whether they are meaningful is the question . Of the ones that I am aware of , circa 14Km and it's multiples is no more frequent than others .

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