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Forum: Stones Forum
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Respond to: Megalith transport & manufacture - a scientific explanation?
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PeterSmith
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|  New Message Posted!2007-07-12 23:03
Here we go,
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/petersmith.mobile/ArtOrANaturalProcess/photo#5086420498240703314
Anyone can see that this is a small brown bloke, wearing a huge white suit and hat, playing a guitar that is giving off angels. At the same time as passing a Templar Cross to a nearby shark. Easy, but a computer would have missed it for sure. Nothing mythical to see here.
The stone in question which is 1.5m tall and about 300kg http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/petersmith.mobile/ArtOrANaturalProcess/photo#5086420347916847906
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http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/petersmith.mobile/MyStones/photo#5075849930120141890
Oh come on, you must see how funny that is.
(listen to the sound of this thread plunging to the depths of the sacred stones forum) goodbye cruel world
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PeterSmith
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| New Message Posted!2007-07-12 21:42
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On 2007-07-12 16:00, James wrote:
Greetings!
"White Gold Powder" is a New-Age phony scam. It`s been around long enough to be tested, and disproved as having any real effect-on Humans, objects, or Energies.
Washing patina off the Stones is the same-all bad ideas that belong in the "Mysteries" forum. There are new scanning methods that don`t involve destruction.
Always good to investigate new ideas though.
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Thanks James, I have been hunting for such conclusive proof for ages, I agree it sounds like a ridiculous proposition.
Please will you point me at your sources as my own reading has missed all these stories (oops).
I see industries like pharma, aerospace, tech (nano) pouring many $ into researching these and similar materials too. Seems odd (read; unheard of) that they are all getting it so badly wrong.
As for the scanning, has anyone seen or heard any conclusions regarding these stones that has come directly from having them 'scanned'? Lots of analysis of the surface of the stone yes, so, and? The secrets are......?
We are no further forward in understanding or interpreting the carvings that cover every square mm of these stones (real, not mystical). Such systems simply reduce what can be seen even further! That's like looking at the stones through filthy windows that have a reflective coating on them then studying a black and white photo of what can't be seen. Wait, what?
I am sure the providers of such technology would agree with me that it is a tool in the archaeologist's toolbox that has value, but as part of a larger study that might involve such esoteric things as colour.
I don't think it is not the holy grail we are all searching for.
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tiompan
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| New Message Posted!2007-07-12 20:38
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On 2007-07-12 16:00, James wrote:
Greetings!
"White Gold Powder" is a New-Age phony scam. It`s been around long enough to be tested, and disproved as having any real effect-on Humans, objects, or Energies.
Washing patina off the Stones is the same-all bad ideas that belong in the "Mysteries" forum. There are new scanning methods that don`t involve destruction.
Always good to investigate new ideas though.
/!\
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I thought the emoticon said it all i.e. not serious about removing the patina , not that there is any worth the name in Europe , and jet -washing .
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James
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| New Message Posted!2007-07-12 16:00
Greetings!
"White Gold Powder" is a New-Age phony scam. It`s been around long enough to be tested, and disproved as having any real effect-on Humans, objects, or Energies.
Washing patina off the Stones is the same-all bad ideas that belong in the "Mysteries" forum. There are new scanning methods that don`t involve destruction.
Always good to investigate new ideas though.
/!\
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mikecroley
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| New Message Posted!2007-07-12 13:42
http://farshores.org/a03als2.htm
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PeterSmith
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| New Message Posted!2007-07-11 22:30
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On 2007-07-05 15:30, tiompan wrote:
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On 2007-07-05 14:36, bat400 wrote:
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On 2007-07-05 13:47, tiompan wrote:
What is the "real thing" ?
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And does the "real thing" have to have the patina of 3000 years? You may have to wait a bit....
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Unlike desert desert areas our's don't quite get the patina , and subsequent aid to dating ,as in Oz .
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Sorry, I missed the patina bit, Yes its there.
It is a great annoyance to anyone attempting to study accurately these stones, as it effectively obscures the true detail and skill of the craft involved.
I find the best remedy for this build-up is a good stiff wire brushing following by a vigorous jet-washing. They come up as good as new, fair gleaming.
To study them accurately the patina has to go, simple logic. It was not there when the stone was worked so it simply obscures much of what was intended.
We lovingly restore great paintings from history to expose the artists genius and skill do we not? Squllions of hours are spent cleaning and polishing the great jewels and works of art from antiquity, surely these stones deserve a 'wash and brush up' once in a while?
Put a brew on and invite them in, that's what I say. Only then can we attempt to understand their intended meaning or how they were crafted.
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tiompan
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On 2007-07-05 14:36, bat400 wrote:
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On 2007-07-05 13:47, tiompan wrote:
What is the "real thing" ?
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And does the "real thing" have to have the patina of 3000 years? You may have to wait a bit....
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Unlike desert desert areas our's don't quite get the patina , and subsequent aid to dating ,as in Oz .
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bat400
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| New Message Posted!2007-07-05 14:36
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On 2007-07-05 13:47, tiompan wrote:
What is the "real thing" ?
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And does the "real thing" have to have the patina of 3000 years? You may have to wait a bit....
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tiompan
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On 2007-07-05 13:12, PeterSmith wrote:
If it is your belief that these large visible grooves and circles are the sum total of prehistoric rock art then I see where you are coming from. Problem is, its not.
Like I said in my previous posts, I am trying to replicate the real thing, the process and the tools needed to achieve the entire process of which these visible (large) grooves are simply the largest component.
My challenge stands, I will provide real examples of carved prehistoric stones, real tools and modern tools, in the hope that these marking (and images created) can be replicated. I can knock out stones as depicted by the dozen, but they simply don't replicate the real thing in any way.
Excellent, I can see I have a challenger. Just say when you want to come over and we can test the whole thing. Any TV crews out there who want to cover it you would be most welcome.
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What is the "real thing" ?
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PeterSmith
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| New Message Posted!2007-07-05 13:12
If it is your belief that these large visible grooves and circles are the sum total of prehistoric rock art then I see where you are coming from. Problem is, its not.
Like I said in my previous posts, I am trying to replicate the real thing, the process and the tools needed to achieve the entire process of which these visible (large) grooves are simply the largest component.
My challenge stands, I will provide real examples of carved prehistoric stones, real tools and modern tools, in the hope that these marking (and images created) can be replicated. I can knock out stones as depicted by the dozen, but they simply don't replicate the real thing in any way.
Excellent, I can see I have a challenger. Just say when you want to come over and we can test the whole thing. Any TV crews out there who want to cover it you would be most welcome.
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