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Runemage
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|  New Message Posted!2007-07-21 00:50
The more I dowse the more open I become, easier to fit into the natural order and connect with something that permeates all.
I have to agree and nowadays would expand it to - The more I do any energy-workings then the more harmonious and natural life becomes.
Rune
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ilex
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| New Message Posted!2007-07-20 22:23
I'm not a great one for analysis and explanations, I just like to experience and that repeated experience feels the same to me at many different sites. The 'atmosphere' changes three distinct times as described and I can feel it whether I use the rods or not, hence my conclusion of altered states of consciousness.
Rune
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I have to agree with an altered state of consciousness - physical, mental, and spiritual.
The more I dowse the more open I become, easier to fit into the natural order and connect with something that permeates all.
ilex
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Runemage
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| New Message Posted!2007-07-19 23:59
Hi Rune,
Sorry I should have been more explicit.
Three rings or levels of awareness, how did you come to this conclusion or even question out of all the possibilitys available?
Hi Mick,
Not much I can say after Angie's very good and expansive answer, apart from that's just how it feels to me. I've never been taught to dowse and have always done so just for my own interest.
I'm not a great one for analysis and explanations, I just like to experience and that repeated experience feels the same to me at many different sites. The 'atmosphere' changes three distinct times as described and I can feel it whether I use the rods or not, hence my conclusion of altered states of consciousness.
Rune
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AngieLake
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|  New Message Posted!2007-07-17 22:10
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On 2007-07-17 20:21, ilex wrote:
Hi Angie
When I dowse energy lines it seems to provoke a physical reaction in my body. If I dowse the line for an hour or more I can find or tune into the line without rods if I focus on the area of my body that reacts with the current I'm looking for.
From your previous post you seemed sensitive to your reactions which is why I asked about body node points.
I like the idea of archaeological dowsing - I may be going away in August with a friend to dowse some battle fields... and drink beer
ilex
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Hi again, ilex
Oh, I see what you mean now. I've never actually done that. I have dowsed for long periods (like 2 hrs around Stanton Drew...mainly in the NE circle), but just get whacked out, and what we call 'dowsed out'.
I'm probably quite a boring dowser... ha!ha!... just do the job, and draw it up if I'm solo. Otherwise someone else does that.
Haven't done much this summer but am hoping to join the local group at a church site, which stands within an earlier earthwork, tomorrow.
Hope your battlefield trip goes well. Be interesting to hear how you get on. You'll be glad of a few beers after that! (I had one outside the Red Lion at Avebury on Thursday, but hadn't been dowsing!)
Angie
[ This message was edited by: AngieLake on 2007-07-17 22:11 ]
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ilex
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Hi ilex
Thanks for your comments on my post.
No - I've never even thought of dowsing node points on my body. I guess that would involve a pendulum, and though I have one, hardly use it. (My first inclination was to say 'Where would I find a node point?' but I guess I can dowse for them, ha!ha!...)
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Hi Angie
When I dowse energy lines it seems to provoke a physical reaction in my body. If I dowse the line for an hour or more I can find or tune into the line without rods if I focus on the area of my body that reacts with the current I'm looking for.
From your previous post you seemed sensitive to your reactions which is why I asked about body node points.
I like the idea of archaeological dowsing - I may be going away in August with a friend to dowse some battle fields... and drink beer
ilex
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AngieLake
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| New Message Posted!2007-07-17 19:37
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On 2007-07-17 12:43, MuddyMick wrote:
Hi Angie
Thanks for the reply.
I now understand your formula/parameter for this dowsing albeit a quite prescriptive view considering all the possible permutations for these responces and their given numbers.
Regards
MM
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Hi MM
I forgot, the number of rod openings (see previous post) on approach to entrances of chambered tombs aren't always 3. Sometimes found 4, or 5.
Angie
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MuddyMick
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| New Message Posted!2007-07-17 12:43
Hi Angie
Thanks for the reply.
I now understand your formula/parameter for this dowsing albeit a quite prescriptive view considering all the possible permutations for these responces and their given numbers.
Regards
MM
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AngieLake
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| New Message Posted!2007-07-17 12:36
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On 2007-07-17 09:19, MuddyMick wrote:
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On 2007-07-16 17:17, Runemage wrote:
Sorry Mick, I don't understand your last message.
Rune
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Hi Rune,
Sorry I should have been more explicit.
Three rings or levels of awareness, how did you come to this conclusion or even question out of all the possibilitys available?
Regards
MM
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Hi MuddyMick
Perhaps I can answer this as Runemage picked up on my earlier comment?
When I was first taught how to dowse, my tutor told me that the rods do seem to open (at right angles to forward motion) three times on entrance through portals into a 'sanctuary'. (I guess this can be at a fort too, as we've experienced this on entering Roman remains.) At the time of my first experience of this, I was passing through the portal stones of a ruined circle on Dartmoor, having just walked towards its perimeter via the ruined stone row leading up to it. (Other hut circles' doorways in the area didn't have the same effect.)
Now - I DO sometimes question whether my subconcious makes this happen every time. (I think it's healthy to be a little sceptical when dowsing!) So I tried to think why this happens, bearing in mind that I feel a lot of dowsing reactions are caused by people and animal movements.
I'm now wondering if these three reactions I pick up are: (1) the track of people who'd walked around the exterior of the circle's stones, then (2) the stones themselves when passing through the entrance, and finally (3) the track of people walking around the interior circumference of the stones??
That would explain how I only got two rod openings at the crop circle: - (1) being the reaction to the surrounding barrier of the corn still standing, then (2) the reaction to memory of movement where people have walked around the internal circumference? (Just a thought, and only JUST thought of!)
The dowsed approach to entrances of chambered tombs very often have a similar reaction of three rod openings. I did wonder if this is a reaction to posts that may have once lined the approach, after seeing a report on a mortuary enclosure excavation which showed post holes leading to the entrance. Lots of these were probably converted into stone monuments, so traces of the old wooden posts may have stood in the same positions? Worth considering?
As regards the 'levels of awareness' that Runemage referred to:
I wonder if the local custom Tony (our group's dowsing 'leader') witnessed in Cyprus when he lived there are things handed down over the millennia? They had a custom, on special religious days, of symbolically making a ring/ or was it seven rings? of people holding a/ or several/seven(?) rings of rope (?) around the old churches out there.
Perhaps he equated this with the often-found seven circles of energy from the stones to the centre of a circle? (Rods open and close, or point first one way, then the other, seven times... as opposing directions of energy are encountered.)
That's my two-pennyworth of musings on the subject, anyway!
Now to get to what I actually sat at the computer for some time ago!!!
Angie (I don't dowse quite as much these days, and then, only in fine weather!, but if you want to know if there were any rod openings at a certain site I may have a record of it.)
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MuddyMick
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| New Message Posted!2007-07-17 09:19
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On 2007-07-16 17:17, Runemage wrote:
Sorry Mick, I don't understand your last message.
Rune
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Hi Rune,
Sorry I should have been more explicit.
Three rings or levels of awareness, how did you come to this conclusion or even question out of all the possibilitys available?
Regards
MM
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AngieLake
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| New Message Posted!2007-07-17 00:04
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On 2007-07-16 15:48, ilex wrote:
hi angie
I found your post interesting, myself and a friend have had some good results dowsing for hut circles on hillforts. Both of us getting the same out line and entranceway in the same place.
As regards the leyline subject the idea of it being ritual pathways has crossed my mind too.
Geographic fault lines, water veins and lodes containing various minerals have also sprung to mind too.
I think as regards the serpentine flows they interact and run in conjunction with all the above, but they are more also.
Vertical serpentine currents and vortexes cannot be explained by any of the above.
I keep veering towards a universal web.
Have you dowsed for node points on your body? and if so does that point have the potential to connect you to a universal web?
ilex
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Hi ilex
Thanks for your comments on my post.
No - I've never even thought of dowsing node points on my body. I guess that would involve a pendulum, and though I have one, hardly use it. (My first inclination was to say 'Where would I find a node point?' but I guess I can dowse for them, ha!ha!...)
My dowsing is pretty simple (straightforward) really. Oddly enough, I've never knowingly dowsed for water. My dad said once that he could do it when he was younger but I wasn't into it then, and didn't pursue the subject further with him. Shame - he died years ago. He came from a long line of Devon / Wilts country stock.
Glad to hear you and your friend had similar success with dowsing for hut circles. I think that sort of thing is great fun. When I first learned to dowse I used to go with our small local group to Shovel Down on Dartmoor every summer Wednesday and we'd survey the hillside for hut circles, etc. The guy in charge was/is(!) very thorough, and we did a segment each week and he recorded everything we found. This has happened with every site since, and our group has built up quite a big record, so I naturally recorded everything I found later, when going solo around the country. It's good to have something to look back on.
Keep up the dowsing practice!
Angie
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