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sem
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|  New Message Posted!2007-03-21 21:07
Chykel, you say you don't understand why or how. Just look at humans. Quote:
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On 2007-03-21 07:14, Chyknel wrote:
"it may be that the knowledge remains but couched in such different terms that people mock it as fantasy"
"Much knowledge was lost as Christianity spread its message of fear through the western world"
Yes, I agree that sort of thing happens, but in this case the knowledge that was lost was so overwhelmingly useful and its disappearance has been so absolute and profound....
It's the equivalent of a knowledge of writing or nails or rope or levers or fire being totally forgotten by mankind. I just don't understand how or why such a thing could happen.
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cropredy
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| New Message Posted!2007-03-21 18:43
Chyknel,
Looking at roman buildings and definately the mosaic floor decorations,I would say the ronans knew full well.
If it was just a given as such, and all portrayed as religion, then its there where you will find it.
The Romans were invading control the masses freaks.
The Normans were invading control the masses freaks.
The present american /British are invading control the masses freaks.
They will not inform you of anything they deem as secret and for their eyes only.
Unless this web is shut down, all will know shortly.
kevin
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Chyknel
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| New Message Posted!2007-03-21 18:00
If you could stop using the word LOST and consider surpressed?
The Normans by all I detect, definately KNEW all about that which I detect.
Well Kevin if it was known about by British neolithic, Bronze age and iron age people, but not by the Roman Empire or thereafter and then by the Normans but suppressed thereafter its a real puzzle. Not much gets forgotten or entirely suppressed once people can write things down.
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Chyknel
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| New Message Posted!2007-03-21 17:54
"I can understand your methodology but would propose it is very much the wrong tool for the job in hand."
Perhaps, but using my crude tool I have arrived at certain provisional conclusions that may not be too farfetched - for instance that, most probably they dragged the sarsens using ropes and levers....
If you had to put a tenner on it I reckon you'd go with that too.
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cropredy
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| New Message Posted!2007-03-21 17:42
Chyknel,
Hope this link works, if not just google cosmos mandala
Nothing has been forgotten or lost, its just that hardly anyone can see what they are looking at.
When I look at these magical pictures, i can see the universe described in full colour and some are so close to what i detect, they must have been brilliant dowsers, perhaps not needing the rods like i do, s9mply connecting straight into the universal field.
Nothing is lost, just the ability and intent to see.
http://www2.bremen.de/info/nepal/table1.htm
I like mount meru, go from miscellaneous.
kevin
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cropredy
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| New Message Posted!2007-03-21 14:49
Chyknel,
If you could stop using the word LOST and consider surpressed?
The Normans by all I detect, definately KNEW all about that which I detect.
I do not consider this knowledge has ever been lost, but definately with held and manipulated for whatever reasons, mainly religious.
This is now changing rapidly into a monetry and power reason.
As far as testing is concerned, I am not affected by others been present, at all.
I simply allow no resistance to interfere, this interferance is a form of insulation and has been incorperated in the mass diss-information about the universal system of creation.
It is totally electrically based, but not subject to the limited laws of modern science which are based on this planet and its relevant frequency bands.
Universe is everywhere and travels through everything with minimal resistance, hence they can claim its non existance.
I KNOW it exists, I KNOW its methods and how it operates.
Your downloaded learnt by roote knowledge is flawed, and will thus fight tooth and nail to defend itself, as been right, and proclaim that might is right, because all of the others agree with you, especially your Occam.
Sorry, they are all wrong.
Mike has been trying to say this, in his colourfull way , all the time I have been involved with this megalithic world of mysteries.
If you are not too insualted and this universe connects to your personal field, then many truths become available to you, You will appear to the insulated masses as odd.
You are talking with some of those odd bods on here.
The truth of universe simply over writes all obsolete thinking and comprehensions, because its universal.
I have a huge advantage of seeing this as i slice through a section of universe, I see its measure and its method, its simple and has been the basis of all you percieve, but the few have deemed it reasonable to deny the masses, and thus have held power over all, they have created death and destruction to pamper their visions of grandeur.
There time is almost up, Tick tock, tick tock.
Stay as nothing but mass if you choose, or re-learn, its been offered to you FREE , think about WHY.
Kevin
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Aluta
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| New Message Posted!2007-03-21 14:30
I know I posted this before and it convinced no one, but just for the record:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/1281661.html
The key is to find by experiment first who are the capable dowsers and test them as opposed to testing anyone who may call himself or herself a dowser. The ones who are more competent will come out with better performance under the stress of an observed test.
It's likely the rods are an addition more necessary now than in the distant past when a person alone could more clearly feel the EMR without interference or distraction.
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| New Message Posted!2007-03-21 14:28
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On 2007-03-21 14:12, Chyknel wrote:
"consider laboratory conditions.......now consider the subtleties involved with changes in conciousness .
now consider that the observer affects the observed ,a fact of physics!
now consider how dubious your methodology. "
Yes i know. All your points might be valid but I was only going for the Occam view - what's probable on the evidence.
I'd have thought just once, somewhere, someone would have passed a well run dowsing test, but no, never ever. So as i said, until better evidence comes along, I'll take a wild stab and think its a claim but not a convincing one.
That none of these things can ever work if anyone skeptical or even neutral so much as takes a peek seems a bigger claim than claiming they work....
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A lot of the facts of physics are improbable!
we can not take a reductionist view 'of probability' when dealing with conciousness and its resultant effects.
I can understand your methodology but would propose it is very much the wrong tool for the job in hand.
regards
MM
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Chyknel
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| New Message Posted!2007-03-21 14:12
"consider laboratory conditions.......now consider the subtleties involved with changes in conciousness .
now consider that the observer affects the observed ,a fact of physics!
now consider how dubious your methodology. "
Yes i know. All your points might be valid but I was only going for the Occam view - what's probable on the evidence.
I'd have thought just once, somewhere, someone would have passed a well run dowsing test, but no, never ever. So as i said, until better evidence comes along, I'll take a wild stab and think its a claim but not a convincing one.
That none of these things can ever work if anyone skeptical or even neutral so much as takes a peek seems a bigger claim than claiming they work....
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| New Message Posted!2007-03-21 13:57
You're not wrong there, I have great difficulty accepting it as its what every failed dowser, medium, and every other alternativeologist says. Its a version of "it never works in laboratory conditions" which I also think is a highly dubious claim.
Mmmm chickpea,
consider laboratory conditions.......now consider the subtleties involved with changes in conciousness .
now consider that the observer affects the observed ,a fact of physics!
now consider how dubious your methodology.
regards
MM
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