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archaeo
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|  New Message Posted!2006-05-14 17:48
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On 2006-04-11 11:19, rbatham wrote:
Is there a connection between Stonehenge and the great pyramid at Gaza? stonehenge is almost exactly 30 degrees west of the pyramid. the slope angle of the pyramid is 51+ degrees. The latitude of Stonehenge is 51+degrees. Coincidence? Just a thought.  [
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Khufu's Pyramid at Giza (to the Egyptologists) has a slope equal to 4/pi atan, the radian measure of 1/4 of a circle. This is near precisely the slope of a proportion known to have been used from surviving ancient records, and the difference is indiscernable. The angle of phi is also indiscernably close, so this debate is unlikely to ever be settled.
The interesting monument latitude on the Salisbury Plain is Avebury's at precisely 1/7th of circumference. The older henge at Avebury, Windmill Hill henge, is located where the proportion of equal degree amounts of latitude and longitude equals 8:5. Windmill Hill is also situated at 1/100th of circumference from the Newgrange complex (from Knowth to be precise). These contemporaneous sites are older than Avebury's giant henge. And the Giza complex, more recent also, is 1/10th of circumference from the older Newgrange complex.
To examine these relationships, the first thing needed is accuracy in all aspects. Determination of the coordinates of the monuments to within a few feet of accuracy requires six decimal coordinates, and post computational accuracy at the same level requires eight decimal coordinate notation.
A good place to start is Google Earth, but you need to use http://www.magic.gov.uk topo maps at 1:5,000 to get accurate coordinates. Or, more fun still, go to the sites with GPS (then send me the readings too ).
You can download ArchaeoGeodesy, my Excel applet with a lot of coordinates and a spherical trigonometry calculator at:
http://jqjacobs.net/astro/
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| New Message Posted!2006-05-09 07:01
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On 2006-05-01 00:12, STARMAN wrote:
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On 2006-04-30 10:43, Anonymous wrote:
anonymous here is geoffss@aol.com
I'm trying to find out dimensions for the 1 standing Station Stone (Imperial) - anyone know the approx. breadth and width, please?
Considering the station stones are ALL about the Sirius alignment, I don't understand the fascination with this moon sun bollox.
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I have'nt come across any data for Sirius alignments at Stonehenge. If the site was selected about 4000BC then due to the precesion of the equinox Sirius was only 11 degrees above he horizon rising SE, setting SW visible for less than 6 hours. By 2000BC the max elevation was 18 degrees. If you have data on Sirius can you point me to it? batman (rbatham)
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Anonymous
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On 2006-05-01 00:12, STARMAN wrote:
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On 2006-04-30 10:43, Anonymous wrote:
anonymous here is geoffss@aol.com
I'm trying to find out dimensions for the 1 standing Station Stone (Imperial) - anyone know the approx. breadth and width, please?
Considering the station stones are ALL about the Sirius alignment, I don't understand the fascination with this moon sun bollox.
mike
Bollox, exactly .....
I don't know would have done just as well
Geoff
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STARMAN
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On 2006-04-30 10:43, Anonymous wrote:
anonymous here is geoffss@aol.com
I'm trying to find out dimensions for the 1 standing Station Stone (Imperial) - anyone know the approx. breadth and width, please?
Considering the station stones are ALL about the Sirius alignment, I don't understand the fascination with this moon sun bollox.
mike
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User not Registered | New Message Posted!2006-04-30 10:43
anonymous here is geoffss@aol.com
I'm trying to find out dimensions for the 1 standing Station Stone (Imperial) - anyone know the approx. breadth and width, please?
Thanks
Geoff
(nice day for a picnic if you live nearby and own a tape measure .....)geoffss@aol.com
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On 2006-04-30 08:11, Anonymous wrote:
The Stonenge Midsummer Sunrise azimuth is 49 degrees East of North. The northernmost moonset (once every 19 years) is 40 degrees West of North = 89 degrees, not 90. But it's close. The longer side of the Station Stones is roughly at right angles to the Midsummer sunrise (so the shorter sides seem to pick it out whilst the longer pick out the moonset). The hypotenuse (or one of them) sems to point to Khufu at Giza, where the Midwinter sunrise is at azimuth 117-8 degrees. Gaunt et al note that 118 from Stonehenge takes you to Giza and she says it it the azimuth of the Station Stone hypotenuse. So they seem linked (117.3 looks good). Now, if Gaunt's Station Stone measures are right - and there is some .... disagreement! ... then the angle of this hypotenuse to longer side will indicate 23.5 whilst 117.3 indicates 5 X that, roughly - and since this is the Earth's slope v the Sun (hence our Seasons) and varies something like current 23.43 (X 5) ... This number 117 is also the Imbolc sunrise azimuth at Stonehenge and this is almost mirrored by Beltane's 180 + 116.
Geoff
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User not Registered | New Message Posted!2006-04-30 08:11
The Stonenge Midsummer Sunrise azimuth is 49 degrees West of North. The northernmost moonset (once every 19 years) is 40 degrees East of North = 89 degrees, not 90. But it's close. The longer side of the Station Stones is roughly at right angles to the Midsummer sunrise (so the shorter sides seem to pick it out whilst the longer pick out the moonset). The hypotenuse (or one of them) sems to point to Khufu at Giza, where the Midwinter sunrise is at azimuth 117-8 degrees. Gaunt et al note that 118 from Stonehenge takes you to Giza and she says it it the azimuth of the Station Stone hypotenuse. So they seem linked (117.3 looks good). Now, if Gaunt's Station Stone measures are right - and there is some .... disagreement! ... then the angle of this hypotenuse to longer side will indicate 23.5 whilst 117.3 indicates 5 X that, roughly - and since this is the Earth's slope v the Sun (hence our Seasons) and varies something like current 23.43 (X 5) ... This number 117 is also the Imbolc sunrise azimuth at Stonehenge and this is almost mirrored by Beltane's 180 + 116.
Geoff
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On 2006-04-12 00:10, Anonymous wrote:
[quote] Pyramid numerology is a large subject which seems to attract some of the more, how shall I put it, odder fringes of society.
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Pyramidiots Jimit
Now for something completely gone over before.
Check the Angle of the Pyramid at Giza and Silbury and their lats.
51 - 31
See anything written by Michael Dames for more vapid new age psychobabble....
PeteG
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Pyramidiots Jimit
Now for something completely gone over before.
Check the Angle of the Pyramid at Giza and Silbury and their lats.
51 - 31
See anything written by Michael Dames for more vapid new age psychobabble....
PeteG
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| New Message Posted!2006-04-11 21:36
Jimit, You called ?
Phi, 1.618, and it's multiples, really simple, very complex.
Euclid is OK, Fibanacchi is the king.
All is measurable, all is awesome, all is life, or former life, really simple, very complex.
Depends if your mind is open, or closed.
Brainwashed, or receptive.
Past or future ?
Kevin
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On 2006-04-11 14:05, Jimit wrote:
You got me thinking so I did a bit of on-line research........
Pyramid Angle 51.7degrees
Stonehenge Latitude 51.10 degrees
P date 2580bce (although may be earlier)
SH date 3050-1500bce
Degrees longitude between...32.56
Interestingly the start date of SH coincides with Narmer who is considered to be the first Pharaoh.
Pyramid numerology is a large subject which seems to attract some of the more, how shall I put it, odder fringes of society.
Jim.
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