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<< Our Photo Pages >> Cefn Gwernffrwd stone circle - Stone Circle in Wales in Carmarthenshire (Sir Caerfyrddin)
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Submitted by cerrig on Sunday, 22 September 2002 Page Views: 7337
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Site Name: Cefn Gwernffrwd stone circle Country: Wales County: Carmarthenshire (Sir Caerfyrddin) Type: Stone Circle
Map Ref: SN737493 Landranger Map Number: 146
Latitude: 52.127533N Longitude: 3.846439W
Condition:| 5 | Perfect | | 4 | Almost Perfect | | 3 | Reasonable but with some damage | | 2 | Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site | | 1 | Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks | | 0 | No data. | | -1 | Completely destroyed |
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Ambience:| 5 | Superb | | 4 | Good | | 3 | Ordinary | | 2 | Not Good | | 1 | Awful | | 0 | No data. |
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Access:| 5 | Can be driven to, probably with disabled access | | 4 | Short walk on a footpath | | 3 | Requiring a bit more of a walk | | 2 | A long walk | | 1 | In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find | | 0 | No data. |
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Accuracy:| 5 | co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates | | 4 | co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map | | 3 | co-ordinates scaled from a bad map | | 2 | co-ordinates of the nearest village | | 1 | co-ordinates of the nearest town | | 0 | no data |
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On Cefn Gwernffrwd is a complex of monuments. In a clearing within the forestry can be found a ring cairn; a stone circle; a tumulus; a definite 3 stone row and another alleged stone row. All these are within 100 meters of one another.
The circle and Tumulus are close together. They are also connected by the compass, as the centre of the circle (marked by a small stone) and the centre of the Tumulus are aligned E/W, exactly 90 degrees true bearing, an Equinox arrangement.
The circle is the usual small stones, mostly swamped by the grass, but recognisable all the same. A bit of gardening soon brings it to life.
The Tumulus is a small neat affair, grass covered with the normal robbers dimple in it's top, and with a most curious addition of 2 "sheep tracks" that go up over the mound and meet at right angles at the top, giving it a hot cross bun appearance. Even stranger as I saw no sheep at all in the forestry?
The clearing it's all contained in within the forestry gives this collection a bit of a fairy tale feel. All around are dark woods, and being so far from anywhere the silence is a little eerie till you get used to it, but the site has a good feel to it. I sat for some time on a very nice mossy tree stump just wondering what this place was all about. A very nice unique site, well worth a return visit.
Do not attempt this journey in a normal road car. You will regret it. Very rough tracks once you leave the tarmac a long way back down in the valley.
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 Cefn Gwernffrwd stone circle submitted by cerrig
An aerial view of the complex. The ring cairn and row are in the topmost clearing, with the circle and Tumulus in the bottom clearing.
 Cefn Gwernffrwd stone circle submitted by cerrig
The Tumulus, looking East. The circle is to the right and the ring cairn and stone row is to the left.
 Cefn Gwernffrwd stone circle submitted by cerrig
This shows most of the complex. In the foreground can be seen the ring cairn as a crop mark. The 3 stone row is to the left of it, just at the edge of the trees.
In the furthest clearing is the Tumulus on it's right, and the circle is to the left of the tumulus, well hidden in the grass.
This view is looking South.
 Cefn Gwernffrwd stone circle submitted by cerrig
Somewhere in the grass can be found the circle. All Smallish stones, barely showing at all, and some not at all now.
The Tumulus can be seen just on the edge of the forestry, beyond the circle.
The stone row and ring cairn are just out of sight to the right(north)
This view is looking West.
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Re: Cefn Gwernffrwd (Score: 1)
by cerrig on Saturday, 18 September 2010
(User Info | Send a Message) | This report by Dyfed Archaeological trust also contains a plan of the complex which shows the geometric relationship between the different monuments. It doesn't seem to have transferred along with the text, but if anyone is interested the original complete article can easily be found by googleing "cefn gwernffryd".
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Cefn Gwernffrwd Prehistoric Funerary and Ritual Complex 2007
During 2007-08 a topographic survey of the Cefn Gwernffrwd monument complex, Rhandirmwyn, Carmarthenshire was carried out. This complements a survey carried out by RCAHMW in 1975 and places the monuments in a landscape context. It also enabled an accurate evaluation of the change in condition in the monument over 32 years. Some elements of the complex recorded in 1975 were not visible in 2007, most notably a stone row. Overall, however, the complex has changed little between the two surveys.
Download the Cefn Garnffrwd Survey in PDF format - 1.4Mb (opens in new window).
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Re: Cefn Gwernffrwd (Score: 1)
by cerrig on Tuesday, 18 May 2010
(User Info | Send a Message) | On Cefn Gwernffrwd is a complex of monuments. In a clearing within the forestry can be found a ring cairn;a stone circle;a tumulus; a definite 3 stone row and another alleged stone row. All these are within 100 meters of one another.
The ring cairn and the 3 stone row are within 15 meters of each other. The row,to the S/E, is aligned to the southern edge of the ring, and with a compass bearing(true) of 49 degrees is also a possible Sun Solstice marker, ( rising summer or setting winter) although only the N/W sightline is visible now due to the forestry, but intriguinly this sightline passes down one of the rides through the trees to a hill in the distance.
The circle and Tumulus are about 80 meters away, and like the ring and row are close together. They are also connected by the compass, as the centre of the circle(marked by a small stone) and the centre of the Tumulus are aligned E/W, exactly 90degrees true bearing, an Equinox arrangement.
The connection between the 2 pairs of monuments is less clear, although a N/S line from the circle centre neatly divides the gap between the ring and the row. Further relationships are there I'm sure, but a proper survey would be needed to reveal them.
The monuments themselves are in reasonable condition. The 3 stone row is A1. The ring cairn is a bit denuded, but shows up well at this time of year(May) as a dark ring with odd stones in the white tussocky grass.It has a possible slab type recumbent in it's S/E corner, reminiscent of the Breconshire circles.
The circle itself is the usual small stones, mostly swamped by the grass, but recognisable all the same. A bit of gardening soon brings it to life.
The Tumulus is a small neat affair, grass covered with the normal robbers dimple in it's top, and with a most curious addition of 2 "sheep tracks" that go up over the mound and meet at right angles at the top, giving it a hot cross bun appearance. Even stranger as I saw no sheep at all in the forestry?
The clearing it's all contained in within the forestry gives this collection a bit of a fairy tale feel. All around are dark woods, and being so far from anywhere the silence is a little eerie till you get used to it, but the site has a good feel to it. I sat for some time on a very nice mossy tree stump just wondering what this place was all about. A very nice unique site, well worth a return visit.
Do not attempt this journey in a normal road car. You will regret it. Very rough tracks once you leave the tarmac a long way back down in the valley.
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by Anonymous on Saturday, 31 January 2004 | Condition:well there is a burial chamber in rhandirmwyn that is hardly listed anywhere on the web and you might be interested in it,I am and i would be glad for any knowledge or enlightenment you could give.this site is i feel sure worthy of acknowledgment,it is situated right at the source of the towy valley and for fish and hunting would have been greatly valued,the capstones are huge, the thing just demands my curiosity,its built upon an s shape bank and in a valley with steep mountain all around,01550 760209 MARK
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Re: Cefn Gwernffrwd (Score: 1)
by PaulM on Monday, 02 February 2004
(User Info | Send a Message) | Interesting - if you have any more information I'd love to see it.
From a search I note there is a standing stone and cairn near the town but in the forest above Rhandirmwyn there is a site called Garn Wen...
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Re: Cefn Gwernffrwd (Score: 1)
by Zenmonk on Tuesday, 16 November 2004
(User Info | Send a Message) | Paul,
I believe he means the Burial Chamber at SN770459. It is on an 's' bend in the river flanked by steep valley sides all round. |
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