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<< Our Photo Pages >> Bartine Castle - Ancient Village or Settlement in England in Cornwall

Submitted by JimChampion on Thursday, 25 August 2005  Page Views: 26132

Multi-periodSite Name: Bartine Castle Alternative Name: Bartinney Castle
Country: England County: Cornwall Type: Ancient Village or Settlement
Nearest Town: St Just
Map Ref: SW39442933
Latitude: 50.106761N  Longitude: 5.645448W
Condition:
5Perfect
4Almost Perfect
3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
0No data.
-1Completely destroyed
 3 Ambience:
5Superb
4Good
3Ordinary
2Not Good
1Awful
0No data.
 no data Access:
5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
3Requiring a bit more of a walk
2A long walk
1In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find
0No data.
 3 Accuracy:
5co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates
4co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map
3co-ordinates scaled from a bad map
2co-ordinates of the nearest village
1co-ordinates of the nearest town
0no data
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Bartine Castle
Bartine Castle submitted by JimChampion : August 2005. The trig pillar on the summit of the hill, in the middle of Bartine Castle, surrounded by an earthwork bank. (Vote or comment on this photo)
On top of the hill there is a circular earthwork described on the map as an "enclosure". On the surrounding gorse-covered hillside (Bartinney Downs) there are numerous tumuli, cairns and ancient field systems. Close to the trig point at the summit there is what looks like a well.

Access: Much of the hill is "access land", although the thick covering of gorse and the presence of old mine shafts may encourage you to stick to the pathways. The nearest convenient parking is at Chapel Carn Brea, from which a footpath runs west across Tredinney Common towards Carn Euny.

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Bartine Castle, The Western Hut Looking NW towards St Just (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Bartine Castle, Looking SW over the bank of the Western Hut towards Carn Brea (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Bartine Castle, Western Hut looking North (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : The remaining part of the tumulus at SW39542917 (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Bartine Castle, Part of Eastern Hut looking towards Caer Bran

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Bartine Castle, The Western Hut looking SE

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Bartine Castle, Part of the slight enclosure bank with Carn Brea visible in the background on the left

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Bartine Castle, Part of the slight enclosure bank, Looking over to Carn Bran Fort in the background

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : A few Stones around the remains of the low cairn at SW39322932

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Bartine Castle, The Eastern Hut looking East over Sancreed Beacon towards St Michael's Mount

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Something, Not sure what this is but it isn't a natural setting, Found at SW39392919

Bartine Castle
Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Bartine Castle, Is it a well or a prospecting pit? Not too sure myself, I believe it's a well and there's water in it but it certainly could be a (filled in) prospecting pit, There is some certain prospecting pits next to it but they are very different to this

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Bartine Castle, The Northern Hut looks very different (See my older photo of it) since there was a fire on the hill, Looking East towards St Michael's Mount

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Bartine Castle, The Western Hut looking over to Carn Bran (In the background on the left)

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Bartine Castle, Looking over what i believe is a well towards the Western Hut, Mike believed this is a prospecting pit (Which it could well be), but the prospecting pit he saw marked on the plan is i believe right behind me in this photo (So right next to the supposed well)

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Bartine Castle submitted by MikeAttwell : The Cornwall Archaeology Unit undertook a detailed archaeological assessment of Bartinney Hill, Tredinney Common and Carn Grean in 1995. One of the conclusions was that the “Castle” on the summit of Bartinney Hill is “not of Iron Age date, but an earlier prehistoric ritual enclosure”. This consists of a “low stoney circular bank containing three kerbed ring cairns and four small round ca...

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Bartine Castle submitted by MikeAttwell : The three large central ring cairns are virtually conjoined. This photo shows the second complete ring cairn which surrounds the light coloured grass. Small stones can be seen projecting from the bank on the bottom right of the photo. The third ring cairn is identifiable but survives only as a partial ring.

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Bartine Castle submitted by MikeAttwell : The bank of the large enclosure is difficult to photograph. This photo shows the possibly original entrance through the bank. The trig pillar at the centre of the site can be seen and this gives an indication of the size of the enclosure.

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Bartine Castle submitted by MikeAttwell : Others have described this feature as a well. However, on the 1995 plan this is shown as a prospecting pit. Given that the stonework appears recent it might be reasonable to conclude that this was part of the works undertaken to make the site safe to visitors.

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Beltane in Bartine (also means Beltane) Castle, Western Hut

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Beltane in Bartine (also means Beltane) Castle, Northern Hut

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Beltane in Bartine (also means Beltane) Castle, Eastern Hut

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Bartine Castle submitted by Bladup : Part of a hut circle with the well behind it inside Bartine Castle enclosure.

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Re: Bartine Castle by Anonymous on Saturday, 20 July 2019
Bartinney Castle lies on a strong geometric solstice alignment that spans from Land's End - The Wash in East Anglia.
The alignment is examined & followed by satellite in the following link;
https://ancientwhisperspenwith.blogspot.com/2019/07/clb-seahenge-pt-2-lands-end-wash.html
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Farmer having a bit of fun by Andy B on Friday, 22 June 2018
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Ulrich writes: While searching the maps for Carn Euny, I discovered a strange structure nearby this site. Link to Google Maps

Looks like a joke, made by a nearby farmer?

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Re: Bartine Castle by Anonymous on Monday, 18 October 2010
Sorry to say, the 'well' at Bartinney Castle isn't a well, and Rory is blameless. It's one of numerous tin prospecting pits in this quadrant of the enclosure which tends to hold rain water and has been added to by people over the last 30 years or so, using stones from pit upcasts and - I'm afraid - some of the numerous small cairns within the enclosure. In the centre of the enclosure are three ring cairns formed by gravelly banks, with signs of their original outer kerbs - the trig pillar is in the centre of the best preserved of the three. The site appears to be a ritual cairn enclosure of probable Bronze Age date. It is very closely echoed by another ring cairn enclosure of similar size on the next hill to the east - Caer Bran. This also contains three ring cairns and owes its preservation to the fact that the surrounding Iron Age hill fort rampart and ditch was never completed. I suspect that the very slight inner enclosure at Castle-an-Dinas (Ludgvan) is a similar, earlier structure and his also contains three cairns.

Craig Weatherhill
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Re: Bartine Castle by Anonymous on Friday, 19 June 2009
Dear Megalithic Portal,
I still find areference on your site, that states, that i dug the well at Bartiey Castle when I typ Rory Te'Tigo into the Bing surch engine. Couild you please be so kind to rectiify that mistake.
Your
Rory Te' Tigo.
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    Re: Bartine Castle by Andy B on Monday, 25 January 2010
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    Dear Rory, The search is returning a result quoting a claim from Andy Norfolk. We do not take sides on this and wish to present both opinions. You have stated in your post on this same page that you did not have anything to do with the creation of the 'well' at Bartine Castle. There is nothing in our editorial content for us to rectify.
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Re: Bartine Castle by Andy_Norfolk on Sunday, 05 August 2007
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You may be interested to know that the name of this hill comes from the Cornish for hill and backside. It's bum hill!

The well like structure was allegedly dug/built a few years ago by Rory Te'Tigo, a German sculptor living in St Just
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    Re: Bartine Castle by JimChampion on Monday, 06 August 2007
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    Bum Hill, brilliant. I'd wondered about the well because I'd seen it in 2005, but then read that the well at Bartine Castle was 'lost' (in an older publication). I've seen Rory Te'Tigo work outside St Just library. Is he also responsible for this megalithic sculpture on the Madron-Morvah road?
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    Re: Bartine Castle by TheCaptain on Monday, 06 August 2007
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    Is there a valley running down the back of the hill ? Or a crack of some sort ?

    I'll get my coat....
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    Re: Bartine Castle by Anonymous on Sunday, 14 December 2008
    I hear that Rory says that he didn't dig out this well-like feature.

    There was no well marked in this location on the early OS maps. Both the 1878 and 1887 editions show a well close to the single rampart of the enclosure, well (pun unavoidable) to the north-west of the well-like structure. They do not show anything close to the trig point which they do show. Craig Weatherhill does not show a well in the plan of Bartinney Castle he included in Cornovia published in 1985. If a well had been present then he would have shown it - he did for example show the one in Chun Castle. In Cheryl Straffon's "Earth Mysteries Guide to Ancient Sites in West Penwith", published in 1992, she includes a well at Bartinney Castle in a list of destroyed wells and says its exact location is unknown. Cheryl didn't include it in her recent Fenynyow Kernow on Cornish holy wells and it isn't referred to so far as I know in any of the other books about Cornish wells, of which I have a number. I agree with these sources. This well-like structure has appeared since 1992. It certainly wasn't there when I first visited Bartinney many years ago.

    For what it's worth I was there with the West Cornwall Dowsers last year. None of the group thought that this well-like structure was a genuine well. We did however find a couple of possible locations close to the spot shown on the early OS maps which seemd likely candidates with the right dowsable water sources.

    Andy N
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