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Submitted by stu on Friday, 24 September 2004  Page Views: 26708

Rock ArtSite Name: Copt Howe Alternative Name: Langdale Boulders
Country: England County: Cumbria Type: Rock Art
Nearest Town: Ambleside  Nearest Village: Chapel Stile
Map Ref: NY31400583  Landranger Map Number: 90
Latitude: 54.443224N  Longitude: 3.059302W
Condition:
5Perfect
4Almost Perfect
3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
0No data.
-1Completely destroyed
3 Ambience:
5Superb
4Good
3Ordinary
2Not Good
1Awful
0No data.
4 Access:
5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
3Requiring a bit more of a walk
2A long walk
1In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find
0No data.
4 Accuracy:
5co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates
4co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map
3co-ordinates scaled from a bad map
2co-ordinates of the nearest village
1co-ordinates of the nearest town
0no data
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Billythefish visited on 1st Jul 2019 - their rating: Cond: 3 Amb: 5 Access: 4 Worrying deterioration since I last visited in 2013. The interpretation panel has gone so people are not aware of the rock's importance. The motifs were barely discernible due to a build-up of moss and lichen.

Anne T visited on 11th Aug 2015 - their rating: Cond: 3 Amb: 5 Access: 4 Copt Howe (The Langdale Boulders): When we drove past here on the way to Mickleden further down the Great Langdale valley, we spotted the signpost to Copt Howe but the road was so narrow and busy there was no room to stop. On the way back it was now after 6pm and the roads were quiet apart from one or two cars and cyclists. We parked behind another car in what seemed to be a narrow lay-by almost opposite the gate into the field containing these boulders.

If I thought the Mickleden walk scenery was beautiful (if stark with its tall peaks scree slopes) then this view down the Great Langdale valley was spectacular – green, lush and with rolling hills in the distance. What a location. The rock art was on the largest boulder which was lowest in the field, sitting below the outcrop in which a tree now grows in the middle of. A very rickety stile climbed the stone wall to the other side, although when I touched this it came away from the wall, so I opted to walk down to the gate lower down in the field.

The early evening light was conducive in helping the motifs spring out of the rock. A few of the ‘cups’ were similar to the double cups on the Twelve Apostles in Dumfries, these being formed through natural erosion rather than pecking. I compared the designs I could see to the interpretation board but couldn’t quite reconcile the two.

In walking back up to the car I went round the left hand side of the tree (facing the road) and spotted a large single cup mark in the centre of the face.

MikeS visited on 1st Jan 2000 - their rating: Cond: 3 Amb: 4 Fascinating piece of uninterpreted history. I think the heart-shaped group of dots on the (no longer available) interpretation diagram are probably a piece of modern graffiti. I don't recall seeing them when I visited the site, so many years ago. I think the site may benefit from some professional archeological digging at of the base of the main boulder. It seems likely there may be other cup marks or art work currently covered by accumulated soil, etc.

DrewParsons h_fenton nicoladidsbury have visited here

Average ratings for this site from all visit loggers: Condition: 3 Ambience: 4.67 Access: 4

Copt Howe
Copt Howe submitted by stu : NY3140 0582. Great carvings with one of the best views in the country. (Vote or comment on this photo)
Rock Art in Cumbria. This site has great carvings with one of the best views in the country.

Park in the small parking bay across from the access pit to the site and walk 20 metres or so into the paddock to see the boulder. There is a detailed site sign there. The main panel is to the immediate left of the steps over the dry stone wall. Across that wall there are other cup marks on the back of the main boulder and on adjacent boulders.

For more information see Pastscape Monument No. 1342555 and Historic England List ID 1019434. Pastscape tells us: "2 Prehistoric rock art sites in Great Langale 250 metres south of Harry Place consisting of 2 very large boulders of Andesitic tuff a few metres apart. The carvings include concentric circles, chevrons, cup marks with rings and various unusual motifs".

The Journal of Antiquities also includes an entry for Copt Howe, Great Langdale, Cumbria, which includes a description and a photograph. The Journal adds: "Other rock carvings may well lie still undetected on the rocks around the Copt Howe area – just waiting for some intrepid rock-art enthusiast to come along and find them".
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Copt Howe submitted by Aerial-Cam : The Chapel Stile Rock Art site with its extensive panel of spirals, lines and cup marks, carved onto the glacial smoothed boulders in the foreground. This enchanting and important site is below the Langdale Pikes, which is a large area of Neolithic polished stone axe production. Photographed during an Archaeology Safari of Cumbria 18th October 2003. (2 comments - Vote or comment on this photo)

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Copt Howe submitted by postman : Copt Howe in it's splendid surroundings, the Langdale axe factories are on top of the mountains in the beyond. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Copt Howe submitted by 2chaddys : I have visited Langdale many times over my 72 years but only this year became aware of the rock art near Copt Howe. I am grateful to Drew Parsons for having submitted the site sign diagram, which no longer exists, in 2013. Having also re-read Blamire's Guidestones to the Gt Langdale Axe Factory, my immediate reaction to the site sign was the similarity of the of engravings to a plan of Langdale sh... (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Copt Howe submitted by DrewParsons : The main boulder. September 2013. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Copt Howe submitted by DrewParsons : Cup and ring marks. September 2013.

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Copt Howe submitted by h_fenton : Langdale Boulders / Copt Howe Rock art panel, photographed at night using an artificial light source (headtorch mounted on a tripod) 21 September 2007

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Copt Howe submitted by Horatio : Detail of the lower part of the rock as it was late in the day and the rock was back-lit, so it was hard to get a decent photograph of the main artwork as no shadow relief. A great site to visit on entering the wonderful valley of Great Langdale. My favourite valley I think since being in the lakes, the drive through Great Langdale then over Wrynose Pass and Hardnott Pass will stay with me forev...

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Copt Howe submitted by 2chaddys : Annotated copy of the Copt Howe site sign, which no longer exists but was submitted by Drew Parsons in in 2013, showing similarities between the engraved marks on the boulder and the geography of Great Langdale as viewed from the site

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Copt Howe submitted by Anne T : Close up of the lone cup mark on the rock next to the tree. It could be my imagination (again!) but it didn't look like the double cups formed by natural erosion on the large motif rock.

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Copt Howe submitted by Anne T : Walking down to the rock art boulder there is a cluster of rocks around a large tree (or rather the tree has grown up in the middle of the rocks). I spotted a single large cup mark in the centre of the vertical face of the rock to the right hand side (as viewed from the road).

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Copt Howe submitted by Anne T : The fantastic views down the Great Langdale valley. The boulder with the rock art motifs is in the centre right of the photograph.

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Copt Howe submitted by Anne T : There's not much else I can add that other people haven't documented, but what a spectacular location. The ladder over the stone wall had come away from the structure so I contented myself by walking down to the gate lower down in the field.

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Copt Howe submitted by Alphasmam : Possible bird or man Copt Howe, Langdale. I took this last week at the same time as the other submitted birdlike image. Again I can find no reference to it on line. This to me looks like an eagle with outstretched wings.Feathery marks can be seen on the outstretched wing on the picture's left.There seems to be a head and beak but it was hard to photograph.Long legs with claws partially using nat... (1 comment)

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Copt Howe submitted by Alphasmam : Possible Bird carving at Copt Howe, Langdale. I found this "bird" rock carving at Copt Howe in Langdale and as I can find no mention anywhere else was wondering if this is new to you. (1 comment)

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Copt Howe submitted by DrewParsons : The main panel by the steps over the wall. There are other cup marks on adjacent boulders across the wall. September 2013.

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Copt Howe submitted by DrewParsons : A row of cup marks. September 2013.

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Copt Howe submitted by DrewParsons : September 2013.

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Copt Howe submitted by DrewParsons : The main panel. September 2013.

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Copt Howe submitted by DrewParsons : Cup marks on the upper part of the main boulder. September 2013.

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Copt Howe submitted by DrewParsons : Concentric circles towards the base of the main rock. September 2013.

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Copt Howe submitted by DrewParsons : Site sign diagram illustrating the rock art. September 2013.

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Copt Howe submitted by DrewParsons : The site sign. September 2013. (1 comment)

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Copt Howe submitted by DrewParsons : Detail from the site sign. September 2013. (1 comment)

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Copt Howe submitted by postman : The Copt Howe boulder, the main rock art is on this facing panel , but there other "bits" on the other side of the stile.

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Re: Connecting the dots. Cupules and communication in the English Lake District by Rich32 on Tuesday, 05 March 2019
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North side of the stile:




Copt Howe (Rock Art) Excavations - North
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Re: Connecting the dots. Cupules and communication in the English Lake District by Rich32 on Monday, 04 March 2019
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Copt Howe Rock Art Excavation
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Re: Copt Howe by brochbagger on Sunday, 18 November 2018
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The site was excavated in June 2018 by Richard Bradley and Aaron Watson (and others of course) More information can be seen in Aaron Watson's excavation journal which can be found in his blog. (not sure if I am allowed to post a link - just google it) There are indeed more motifs below the current surface level, as well as an interesting cobbled platform beneath the main panel of motifs.
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Rock-art and rough outs: exploring the sacred and social dimensions by Andy B on Thursday, 05 July 2018
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Rock-art and rough outs: exploring the sacred and social dimensions of prehistoric carvings at Copt Howe, Cumbria - Kate E Sharpe

Publication Date: 2007
Publication Name: In A. Mazel, G. Nash, and C. Waddington. Art as Metaphor: The Prehistoric Rock-Art of Britain

https://www.academia.edu/36984472/
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Re: Connecting the dots. Cupules and communication in the English Lake District by Andy B on Saturday, 02 September 2017
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Pastscape http://www.pastscape.org.uk/hob.aspx?hob_id=1342555
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Re: Copt Howe by Anonymous on Sunday, 30 April 2017
I was here today (Sunday April 30, 2017) but the rings were no longer discernible perhaps due to a lichen-type growth.

I have measured several hundred rings so far (for paper on megalithic maths) but I have never seen them on vertical faces or so low down as to suggest some are buried. Perhaps these are fakes? Perhaps the rock rolled down the hill after the marks had been cut?

If genuine then better care is essential.
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Connecting the dots. Cupules and communication in the English Lake District by Andy B on Monday, 19 October 2015
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A new corpus of rock art has recently emerged in the northwest of England. Targeted surveys and chance discoveries have revealed around 35 decorated panels on the hard, igneous rocks of the Lake District in the county of Cumbria.

During the British Neolithic period these crags were also the focus of another reductive use of stone: the production of axe-heads. Outcropping around the mountain summits is a ribbon of fine-grained andesitic tuff, a distinctive raw material which drew the attention of prehistoric stone-workers. is paper suggests a possible relationship between the carved panels and the movement of prehistoric people around this challenging landscape in pursuit of the precious stone at its heart.

https://www.academia.edu/16995691/Connecting_the_dots._Cupules_and_communication_in_the_English_Lake_District
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    Re: Connecting the dots. Cupules and communication in the English Lake District by SumDoood on Monday, 23 January 2017
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    Good. Thought-provoking stuff.
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