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<< Our Photo Pages >> Cefn Gwernffrwd Row - Stone Row / Alignment in Wales in Carmarthenshire

Submitted by cerrig on Wednesday, 03 March 2004  Page Views: 7312

Neolithic and Bronze AgeSite Name: Cefn Gwernffrwd Row Alternative Name: Cefn Gwernffrwd Row I; Cefn Gwernffrwd, Complex; Pen-y-Rhaglen-Wynt, Complex
Country: Wales County: Carmarthenshire Type: Stone Row / Alignment
Nearest Town: Builth Wells  Nearest Village: Tregaron / Cilycwm
Map Ref: SN7370049328  Landranger Map Number: 146
Latitude: 52.127784N  Longitude: 3.84645W
Condition:
5Perfect
4Almost Perfect
3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
0No data.
-1Completely destroyed
4 Ambience:
5Superb
4Good
3Ordinary
2Not Good
1Awful
0No data.
4 Access:
5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
3Requiring a bit more of a walk
2A long walk
1In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find
0No data.
1 Accuracy:
5co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates
4co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map
3co-ordinates scaled from a bad map
2co-ordinates of the nearest village
1co-ordinates of the nearest town
0no data
5

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SandyG visited on 21st Aug 2018 - their rating: Cond: 4 Amb: 1 Access: 2 Car parking is available at SN 73866 51538. From here walk down the road to SN 73788 51562 and then follow the track/bridleway to SN 73962 50206. Enter the forest and follow the forest tracks to SN 73622 49408. The stone rows, cairns and stone circle are on your left. The sites are situated within a clearing in a working forest and from time to time access maybe denied when works are being carried out.

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Cefn Gwernffrwd Row
Cefn Gwernffrwd Row submitted by cerrig : Looking North West. (Vote or comment on this photo)
Stone Row with Ring Barrow in Carmarthenshire

On Cefn Gwernffrwd is a complex of monuments. In a clearing within the forestry can be found a ring cairn; a stone circle; a tumulus; a definite 3 stone row and another alleged stone row. All these are within 100 meters of one another.

The ring cairn and the 3 stone row are within 15 meters of each other. The row, to the S/E, is aligned to the southern edge of the ring, and with a compass bearing(true) of 49 degrees is also a possible Sun Solstice marker, (rising summer or setting winter) although only the S/W sightline is visible now due to the forestry, but intriguinly this sightline passes down one of the rides through the trees to a hill in the distance.

The monuments themselves are in reasonable condition. The 3 stone row is A1. The ring cairn is a bit denuded, but shows up well in May as a dark ring with odd stones in the white tussocky grass. It has a possible slab type recumbent in it's S/E corner, reminiscent of the Breconshire circles.

The clearing it's all contained in within the forestry gives this collection a bit of a fairy tale feel. All around are dark woods, and being so far from anywhere the silence is a little eerie till you get used to it, but the site has a good feel to it. I sat for some time on a very nice mossy tree stump just wondering what this place was all about. A very nice unique site, well worth a return visit.

Do not attempt this journey in a normal road car. You will regret it. Very rough tracks once you leave the tarmac a long way back down in the valley.

Update October 2019: Note: For ease of understanding and recording, this stone row, Cefn Gwernffrwd Row I, appears on this site page. Cefn Gwernffrwd Row 2 and its associated stone circle can be found on 'nearby sites' below.

This alignment, with its associated ring barrow, is recorded on the Stone Rows of Great Britain website - see their entry for Cefn Gwernffrwd Row I, which includes a description, photographs of the alignment, plus photographs showing its position in relationship to Cefn Gwernffrwd Row 2 with its associated stone circle, plus access information and links to other online resources for more information (including the 2007 archaeological survey).

The monument is also recorded as part of Coflein NPRN 304529 (Cefn Gwernffrwd, Complex; Pen-y-Rhaglen-Wynt, Complex) and scheduled as CADW CM218 (Cairns and Stone Circle S of Pen-y-Raglan-Wynt.

The SRoGB asks visitors to note: "The sites are situated within a clearing in a working forest and from time to time access maybe denied when works are being carried out".
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Cefn Gwernffrwd Row
Cefn Gwernffrwd Row submitted by SandyG : Plan of Cefn Gwernffrwd Row 1 (Source: survey at 1:100 by Sandy Gerrard). (Vote or comment on this photo)

Cefn Gwernffrwd Row
Cefn Gwernffrwd Row submitted by cerrig : Looking from the North, towards the area of the nearby circle beyond the trees in the background. The wider distance between the stones is about 6 feet, and the smaller gap about 18 inches . Stones are knee high. (Vote or comment on this photo)

Cefn Gwernffrwd Row
Cefn Gwernffrwd Row submitted by cerrig : The possible Winter Solstice sunset alignment. (1 comment - Vote or comment on this photo)

Cefn Gwernffrwd Row
Cefn Gwernffrwd Row submitted by SandyG : View from above and south east (Scale 1m). (Vote or comment on this photo)

Cefn Gwernffrwd Row
Cefn Gwernffrwd Row submitted by SandyG : View from above and east (Scale 1m). The stone on the left measures 0.28m square by 0.64m high and stands 0.64m high. The middle stone measures 0.48m long by 0.43m wide and stands up to 0.70m high The stone on the right measures 0.35m long by 0.30m wide and stands 0.59m high.

Cefn Gwernffrwd Row
Cefn Gwernffrwd Row submitted by SandyG : View from above and east of the row and ring barrow (Scale 1m).

Cefn Gwernffrwd Row
Cefn Gwernffrwd Row submitted by SandyG : View from the south east (Scale 1m).

Cefn Gwernffrwd Row
Cefn Gwernffrwd Row submitted by Bladup : Cefn Gwernffrwd Row.

Cefn Gwernffrwd Row
Cefn Gwernffrwd Row submitted by FarmerK : Stone row in July

Cefn Gwernffrwd Row
Cefn Gwernffrwd Row submitted by cerrig : Looking from the edge of the ring cairn back to the row, the alignment is spot on.

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 nankm 0° Cefn Gwernffrwd stone circle* Stone Circle (SN7370049328)
 1.8km SW 219° Esgair Nant-y-Maen cairn* Ring Cairn (SN72544798)
 2.0km E 81° Cefn Cnwcheithinog* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SN757496)
 2.8km SE 138° Cefn Gwenffrwd Maenhir* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SN75514725)
 3.1km SE 137° Randirmwyn Standing Stone* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SN758470)
 3.9km WSW 253° Crug Siarls* Stone Circle (SN69954830)
 4.0km SSW 199° Crugiau Merched Cairn 2 Cairn (SN72324557)
 4.0km SSW 199° Crugiau Merched* Cairn (SN72274555)
 4.1km SSW 200° Crugiau Merched, Cairn 1* Cairn (SN72214553)
 4.3km S 187° Maen Bach* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SN73084507)
 4.6km S 180° Mynydd Mallaen* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SN73564471)
 4.8km SE 135° Gelli Burial Chamber* Chambered Cairn (SN7703845843)
 5.0km NE 43° Carn Saith-Wraig, Round Cairn* Round Cairn (SN77185288)
 5.0km NE 42° Carn Saith-Wraig, Ring Cairn* Ring Cairn (SN77105297)
 5.1km SE 129° Ty Newydd Standing Stone* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SN776460)
 5.1km NE 35° Blaen nant y Rhiw Round Cairn* Cairn (SN76765347)
 5.5km NNE 11° Bryn y Gorlan* Stone Circle (SN74945473)
 5.9km NE 48° Nant Llwyd Standing Stones* Standing Stones (SN782532)
 6.2km SSW 202° Rhiwgaregog Standing Stone (recumbent)* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SN71274364)
 6.3km SSW 202° Rhiw Gwaregog Standing Stone Standing Stone (Menhir) (SN71184354)
 6.3km SSW 201° Rhiw Garegog Standing Stone II* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SN71264349)
 6.3km SSW 202° Rhiw Garegog Ditch* Misc. Earthwork (SN71184352)
 6.4km SSW 201° Rhiw Garegog Round barrows* Round Barrow(s) (SN71214346)
 6.5km SSW 199° Rhiw Garegog Scoop Grave 2 Misc. Earthwork (SN71474323)
 6.6km SSW 199° Rhiw Garegog Scoop Grave 1 Misc. Earthwork (SN71414314)
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Re: Cefn Gwernffrwd Row by Anonymous on Tuesday, 14 November 2023
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Re: Cefn Gwernffrwd Row by Andy B on Friday, 04 January 2019
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Additional info from Sandy G: Car parking is available at SN 73866 51538. From here walk down the road to SN 73788 51562 and then follow the track/bridleway to SN 73962 50206. Enter the forest and follow the forest tracks to SN 73622 49408. The stone rows, cairns and stone circle are on your left. The sites are situated within a clearing in a working forest and from time to time access maybe denied when works are being carried out.
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Re: Cefn Gwernffrwd Row by cerrig on Saturday, 23 October 2010
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ED'S;
In the second paragraph I say that " only the N/W sightline is visible". This should read " only the S/W sightline is visible". This being the setting winter solstice alignment , approx. 229 degrees.
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Re: Cefn Gwernffrwd Row by cerrig on Tuesday, 18 May 2010
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ED'S.
this row is in A1 condition. ambience is very good. access is in the middle of nowhere.
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