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<< Our Photo Pages >> Saint-Joseph Abri - Cave or Rock Shelter in France in Alsace-Lorraine:Haut-Rhin (68)

Submitted by davidmorgan on Wednesday, 19 December 2018  Page Views: 3604

Natural PlacesSite Name: Saint-Joseph Abri
Country: France
NOTE: This site is 3.937 km away from the location you searched for.

Département: Alsace-Lorraine:Haut-Rhin (68) Type: Cave or Rock Shelter
 Nearest Village: Lutter
Latitude: 47.457369N  Longitude: 7.367204E
Condition:
5Perfect
4Almost Perfect
3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
0No data.
-1Completely destroyed
4 Ambience:
5Superb
4Good
3Ordinary
2Not Good
1Awful
0No data.
4 Access:
5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
3Requiring a bit more of a walk
2A long walk
1In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find
0No data.
3 Accuracy:
5co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates
4co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map
3co-ordinates scaled from a bad map
2co-ordinates of the nearest village
1co-ordinates of the nearest town
0no data
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aolson visited on 18th Dec 2018 - their rating: Cond: 4 Amb: 4 Access: 3 To the right of the shrine, climb a steep 30 meter long path to the opening of the cave.

Saint-Joseph Abri
Saint-Joseph Abri submitted by aolson : Looking out over the Lutterbach valley. (Vote or comment on this photo)
A rock-shelter (abri) dating from the Mesolithic into the Neolithic. Recent excavations have shown that Mesolithic hunter-gatherers were living near Neolithic farming communities, revealing an insight into the transitional "Neolithic Revolution".

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Saint-Joseph Abri
Saint-Joseph Abri submitted by aolson : Shrine to St. Joseph at the base of the cliff. (Vote or comment on this photo)

Saint-Joseph Abri
Saint-Joseph Abri submitted by aolson : Cave is about 10 meters wide and 10 deep. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Re: Saint-Joseph Abri by aolson on Tuesday, 18 December 2018
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Coordinates confirmed on site 47.45733, 7.36714
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Saint-Joseph Abri - small exhibition will take place in Autumn 2012 in Lutter. by davidmorgan on Tuesday, 06 March 2012
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The analysis of the various finds and large amount of data on this regionally important site, will now take place and a presentation of the preliminary results in a small exhibition will take place in Autumn 2012 in Lutter.
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From hunter to farmer: new evidence from France by davidmorgan on Tuesday, 06 March 2012
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The Abri (Rock Shelter) of Saint-Joseph was first discovered in 1983 by archaeozoologist Rose-Marie Arbogast and Neolithic specialist Christian Kids, during a systematic exploration of caves of the northern slope of the Jura Hills, in the Alsace region of France.

The rock shelter of St. Joseph has now been studied by a group of researchers from the University of Basel Institut für Prähistorische und Naturwissenschaftliche Archäologie (IPNA) and the University of Strasbourg.

The evidence for occupation was concentrated from the Mesolithic (8500-5500 BCE) and Neolithic (5500-2200 BCE) periods, with lesser but discernible activity during the Bronze Age, late Iron Age and into the Roman period. This represents an occupational period of 10,000 years where groups lived in and around the rock shelter for short periods at a time.
A transitional period

Was there a pre-ceramic Neolithic here, prior to the arrival of kiln technology and the farmers from the east?

The findings at St. Joseph do present a tantalizing perspective on this question, as the rock shelter is located on the fringes of the main occupational zone during the Neolithic.

It is quite possible that the Mesolithic hunter-gatherers in this area kept their traditions until as late as 3900 BCE, long after the farming population of the plain of Alsace had adopted a lifestyle based on agriculture

It is quite possible that the Mesolithic hunter-gatherers in this area retained their traditions and way of life until as late as 3900 BCE, long after the farming population of the plain of Alsace had adopted a lifestyle based on agriculture.

The site seems to provide evidence for a slow acculturation of hunter-gatherers. Contacts, at least, must have existed, given the evidence of charred wheat grains which were excavated, within a Mesolithic context.

It is also possible that hunter-gatherers had already begun to harvest wild cereal crops after they had arrived along with early farmers from the Balkans.

During the later Neolithic however, the shelter was apparently used for hunting. Botanical remains were scarce; besides hazel nuts, the researchers also found corn which was probably brought as food provisions.
End to excavation

This year the archaeologists came across late-glacial deposits dating to around 12,000 BCE, suggesting that there will be no human habitation earlier than this date.

The study of the transition period between hunter-gatherers and farmers are of greatest interest to the archaeologists and all the sediments from the Mesolithic and Neolithic deposits were ‘wet sieved’ to recover organic residues, such as small animal bones and charred plant remains such as seeds and hazelnuts.

Towards the end of the excavation, using a small excavator, the archaeologists dug a narrow trench to determine the extent of the find layers and to obtain additional information on the formation processes. Finds included the lower end of the metacarpal bone of an aurochs (Bos primigenius prime) and the full blade of a bronze dagger from the Early Bronze Age.

The analysis of the various finds and large amount of data on this regionally important site, will now take place and a presentation of the preliminary results in a small exhibition will take place in Autumn 2012 in Lutter.

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