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<< Our Photo Pages >> The Cave of the Scribing - Cave or Rock Shelter in Ireland (Republic of) in Co. Kerry

Submitted by frogcottage42 on Monday, 01 March 2010  Page Views: 8180

Natural PlacesSite Name: The Cave of the Scribing Alternative Name: Pluais na Scríob
Country: Ireland (Republic of)
NOTE: This site is 2.835 km away from the location you searched for.
County: Co. Kerry Type: Cave or Rock Shelter
Nearest Town: Lauragh
Map Ref: V828576
Latitude: 51.759030N  Longitude: 9.698138W
Condition:
5Perfect
4Almost Perfect
3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
0No data.
-1Completely destroyed
 4 Ambience:
5Superb
4Good
3Ordinary
2Not Good
1Awful
0No data.
 4 Access:
5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
3Requiring a bit more of a walk
2A long walk
1In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find
0No data.
 1 Accuracy:
5co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates
4co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map
3co-ordinates scaled from a bad map
2co-ordinates of the nearest village
1co-ordinates of the nearest town
0no data
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The Cave of the Scribing
The Cave of the Scribing submitted by frogcottage42 : More or less in the centre of the wall these lines seem to terminate in a crescent at the top (Vote or comment on this photo)
Cave or Rock Shelter in Co. Kerry

A huge boulder 5m x4m x3m high sits on a terrace on the South face of Stuice an Iolar (droppa) mountain, against this leans a large slab.
This has been walled up at the ends to form a shelter in antiquity but these walls have largely fallen away, it is still dry inside.
On the North face of the boulder inside the shelter are hundreds of cut marks. These do not appear to follow any clear pattern and resemble the calender tallies of some long suffering prisoner.
There are some marks which have an artistic element but really the majority are simple cuts but executed very neatly.
Bored shepherd? Hermit? no one seems to know but there is evidence to suggest great age.

Well worth the hour or so scrambling each way to reach it.
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The Cave of the Scribing
The Cave of the Scribing submitted by frogcottage42 : These are deeply incised. There are very few natural stones in the area hard enough to create these marks and the angle is more like the blade of an axe. (Vote or comment on this photo)

The Cave of the Scribing
The Cave of the Scribing submitted by frogcottage42 : Mmmm! Answers on a postcard perhaps? (Vote or comment on this photo)

The Cave of the Scribing
The Cave of the Scribing submitted by GaelicLaird : Photo taken December 2021 (Vote or comment on this photo)

The Cave of the Scribing
The Cave of the Scribing submitted by GaelicLaird : The site is shown in the middle of the photo. It's a very remote location. Photo taken December 2021. (Vote or comment on this photo)

The Cave of the Scribing
The Cave of the Scribing submitted by GaelicLaird : Look at the top of the photo...some people who have viewed this see a humanlike face with the curve forming the outer left side. Photo taken December 2021.

The Cave of the Scribing
The Cave of the Scribing submitted by GaelicLaird : Photo taken December 2021.

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Re: The Cave of the Scribing by GaelicLaird on Friday, 18 March 2022
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Officially recorded as site KE109-050----

In rough hill pasture, on the SE-facing slope of Cummeenbaun Mountain. A large upright slab (c. 8m x c. 5m x c. 1m) leans against a large roughly cuboid-shaped boulder (L c. 12m E-W; Wth c. 4m N-S; H c. 3m) forming a shelter that can be entered from either the E or W sides. The relatively smooth vertical N face of the boulder is inscribed with clusters of straight lines, which extend from 0.3 to 2.2m above ground level and cover an area 5.8m x 1.9m. Most of the inscribed lines (L 0.04-0.15m) are vertical and are frequently grouped by horizontal or diagonal lines scored across them. The inscriptions are too numerous to count and appear to have been created with V-shaped tools to depths of 1-4mm. This is known locally as 'Pluais na Scríob' (the cave of the inscribing). (Grant 1999, 18-21; Shee Twohig 2004, 224-5)

The above description is derived from the published 'Archaeological Inventory of County Kerry. Volume I: South-West Kerry' (Dublin: Stationery Office, 2009).

The site is described as "rock scribing" which is defined as "...marks deliberately incised or cut into a stone surface. They can vary from a series of very fine lines to geometric patterns or anthropomorphic images. They occur principally on rock outcrops, boulder shelters, caves and megalithic tombs. The date of rock scribings is uncertain though some may be prehistoric. These carvings incorporate motifs that do not regularly fit within the accepted canon of prehistoric Passage tomb art or Rock art..."

I made a short video of the site when I visited in December 2021 which can be viewed here:

https://youtu.be/m6O9t-cMscc


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Re: The Cave of the Scribing by KaiHofmann on Wednesday, 22 May 2013
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It looks a little bit like the polissoirs in France..

like here

the lines are just a little bit thinner. perhaps from neolithic or bronze-age...
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