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<< Our Photo Pages >> Carnedd Copa Arenig Fach - Cairn in Wales in Gwynedd

Submitted by TAlanJones on Wednesday, 17 May 2023  Page Views: 323

Neolithic and Bronze AgeSite Name: Carnedd Copa Arenig Fach
Country: Wales County: Gwynedd Type: Cairn
Nearest Town: Bala  Nearest Village: Frongoch
Map Ref: SH8203841599
Latitude: 52.958748N  Longitude: 3.757529W
Condition:
5Perfect
4Almost Perfect
3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
0No data.
-1Completely destroyed
2 Ambience:
5Superb
4Good
3Ordinary
2Not Good
1Awful
0No data.
4 Access:
5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
3Requiring a bit more of a walk
2A long walk
1In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find
0No data.
2 Accuracy:
5co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates
4co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map
3co-ordinates scaled from a bad map
2co-ordinates of the nearest village
1co-ordinates of the nearest town
0no data
4

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Carnedd Copa Arenig Fach
Carnedd Copa Arenig Fach submitted by TAlanJones : The trig point and shelter atop the cairn. (Vote or comment on this photo)
Cairn in Gwynedd

Situated on the copa (summit) of Arenig Fach mountain lies a large Bronze Age cairn. It is one of a pair with the other cairn some 40m to the NE. According to Coflein, NPRN 514738 ' the other cairn survived in a much better condition.... As this example has been truncated by the construction of a shelter and triangulation pillar.' Basically, Coflein's contention is that a previous implication made by RCAHMW Merioneth Inventory 467 in that, this cairn material was purely re-used material from the other cairn (Carnedd Y Bachgen) was inaccurate. Coflein goes on to describe the cairn as being 10m in diameter by 0.06m high, and insists that this cairn should not be confused or mistaken for the other cairn, i.e. Carnedd y Bachgen.
During my visit I was able to see Coflein's point. The cairn material spreads circularly around the current shelter, clearly emerging from the turf in an upward slant towards the centre. There's no discernable large kerbing but the basic shape suggests a large rocky mountain cairn that's common in Meirionydd.

Arenig Fach rises from the Migneint moorland it is a copa (peak/summit) of the Arenig range of mountains. From most directions it looks like a heathery lump. However, it's NE side is a series of steep cliffs with a small tarn called Llyn Arenig Fach at the base. It is a notoriously challenging ascent and descent with narrow heathery paths and hidden holes, and the summit does not provide for much of a respite until you reach the trig point and shelter. I destroyed my mountain trainers during this visit.(see pic) luckily I always carry a spare pair.

The views from the copa are wonderful with a 360 degree mountain fest and life suddenly seems that little less stressful ... Until you start your descent 😲


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Carnedd Copa Arenig Fach
Carnedd Copa Arenig Fach submitted by TAlanJones : My poor old traineres. Knackered by the terrain (Vote or comment on this photo)

Carnedd Copa Arenig Fach
Carnedd Copa Arenig Fach submitted by TAlanJones : View from the shelter towards Carnedd y Bachgen (cairn). (Vote or comment on this photo)

Carnedd Copa Arenig Fach
Carnedd Copa Arenig Fach submitted by TAlanJones : View to the south across the cairn with Arenig Fawr in the distance. (Vote or comment on this photo)

Carnedd Copa Arenig Fach
Carnedd Copa Arenig Fach submitted by TAlanJones : Northern arc of the cairn. (Vote or comment on this photo)

Carnedd Copa Arenig Fach
Carnedd Copa Arenig Fach submitted by TAlanJones : Eastern arc of the cairn with the shelter on the right. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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 22m E 86° Carnedd Y Bachgen* Round Cairn (SH8206041600)
 1.5km E 100° Bryn Du Cairn* Cairn (SH8346841315)
 1.7km E 91° Clogwyn Du Kerb Cairn* Cairn (SH8378341522)
 1.8km E 93° Clogwyn Du Cairn* Cairn (SH8388141462)
 2.5km SW 223° Pont Tai Hirion Ancient Bridge* Ancient Trackway (SH803398)
 2.5km SW 222° Afon Taihirion Standing Stone* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SH80303976)
 3.1km WSW 245° Nant yr Olchfa Cairn* Round Cairn (SH7919140367)
 3.3km WSW 242° Nant yr Olchfa Hut Circle* Ancient Village or Settlement (SH79104012)
 3.9km WSW 254° Carnedd Iago Stones* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SH7826840651)
 3.9km WSW 253° Carnedd Iago Cairn* Cairn (SH7826340522)
 4.4km NW 315° Migneint Mile Slate Slab* Marker Stone (SH78984480)
 4.5km SE 124° Llidiardau* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SH857390)
 4.5km SE 127° Ffridd Felen* Cairn (SH856388)
 4.7km S 171° Moel yr Eglwys* Cairn (SH82703695)
 4.8km E 91° Pen Garneddwen Cairn* Cairn (SH868414)
 5.6km E 100° Hafod Fadog Memorial* Modern Stone Circle etc (SH87594049)
 5.9km WSW 246° Afon Prysor Cairn* Cairn (SH766393)
 5.9km NW 323° Bryniau Duon Cairn near Llyn Conwy* Cairn (SH786464)
 5.9km NW 320° Llyn Conwy Island Cairn* Cairn (SH783462)
 6.1km NW 312° Bryn Owen Cairn* Cairn (SH776458)
 6.2km WNW 288° Ffynnon Eidda* Holy Well or Sacred Spring (SH762437)
 7.3km SSE 163° Moel Ymenyn Cairn* Cairn (SH840346)
 7.3km N 359° Ysbyty Pont Blaen Eidda Cairn* Cairn (SH82064895)
 7.4km W 272° Llyn Dubach Hut Circle* Ancient Village or Settlement (SH7458642048)
 7.6km SSE 159° Cairn East of Moel Ymenyn* Cairn (SH846344)
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