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Neolithic and Bronze AgeSite Name: St Lythans Alternative Name: Gwal-y-Filiast, Maesyfelin, Maes-Y-Felin, Saint Lythan’s
Country: Wales County: South Glamorgan Type: Chambered Tomb
Nearest Town: Barry  Nearest Village: St Nicholas
Map Ref: ST10097230  Landranger Map Number: 171
Latitude: 51.442530N  Longitude: 3.295045W
Condition:
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4Almost Perfect
3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
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3 Ambience:
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3 Access:
5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
3Requiring a bit more of a walk
2A long walk
1In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find
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5co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates
4co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map
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2co-ordinates of the nearest village
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ArchAstro: would like to visit Archaeoastronomy Investigation: Major Lunar Standstill moonset along azimuth 320° from St Lythans to Tinkinswood. Basic sightline established, but it would be better on a less misty day using flags on a pole, or in the evening with lights. Then as the setting moon reaches maximum northern declinations (approx. 28.7) around the years 2024 & 2025, capture photo of moonset from St Lythans along the azimuth. (see link below) www.exploreglobe.net/st-lythans--tinkinswood-investigation.html

philw visited on 1st Nov 2023 - their rating: Cond: 3 Amb: 4 Access: 4 A short walk from a well signposted gate on the road. There is a tiny layby by the gate to park in.

lucasn visited on 1st Jul 2021 - their rating: Cond: 4 Amb: 4 Access: 4

SteCymru14 visited on 13th Nov 2016 - their rating: Cond: 3 Amb: 3 Access: 4

ArchAstro visited on 1st Jan 2012 Archaeoastronomy Investigation: Major Lunar Standstill moonset along azimuth 320° from St Lythans to Tinkinswood. Basic sightline established, but it would be better on a less misty day using flags on a pole, or in the evening with lights. Then as the setting moon reaches maximum northern declinations (approx. 28.7) around the years 2024 & 2025, capture photo of moonset from St Lythans along the azimuth. (see link below) www.exploreglobe.net/st-lythans--tinkinswood-investigation.html

coldrum visited on 3rd Dec 2011 - their rating: Cond: 3 Amb: 4 Access: 4

druid visited on 13th Jun 2010 - their rating: Cond: 4 Amb: 5 Access: 4

SolarMegalith visited on 1st Jul 2008 - their rating: Cond: 3 Amb: 4 Access: 4

Baruc visited on 1st May 1979 - their rating: Cond: 3 Amb: 3 Access: 5

trystan_hughes visited - their rating: Cond: 3 Amb: 4 Access: 4

Andy B DrewParsons AngieLake TimPrevett rldixon hamish TheCaptain sem coin have visited here

Average ratings for this site from all visit loggers: Condition: 3.25 Ambience: 3.88 Access: 4.13

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St Lythans submitted by Mark_in_Wales : Photo Competition 2022 WINNING ENTRY. This light beam was photographed at 21:14 BST on the 20th of June 2022. St Lythans Burial Chamber is a highly accurate tool for determining the Winter Calendar and making this stunning Arrowhead light-beam at Midsummer. The arrowhead shape (known as an oblique arrowhead in academic circles) is extremely precise, with a straight back, curved cutting surface and... (Vote or comment on this photo)
Chambered Tomb in South Glamorgan. The Welsh name for this site is Gwal-y-Filiast, the Greyhound Bitch's Lair. There was once a mound of earth or stones covering this Neolithic burial chamber, but only slight traces remain.

Now there are three upright stones supporting a 14-foot long by 10-foot wide by 21/2-foot thick capstone, truly a remarkable feat. There are no excavation finds, but one 19th Century researcher recounted seeing bones and pottery mixed up with earth thrown out of the chamber. Traditionally, the field in which the stones stand was said to be cursed, and consequently unprofitable, and the stones themselves were believed to grant any wish whispered to them on Halloween. The capstone is said to whirl around three times on Midsummer Eve, and the same night all the stones go to bathe in the river.

Close nearby, in the same village is Tinkinswood Burial Chamber.

Text by Tom Bullock, JJ says Mind the cow pats!

Dig finds the collapsed facade at the front of the monument complete with the rubble blocking that was placed in front of the chamber when it was sealed, see the new photos added by coldrum. Also lots of flint and neolithic pottery that probably originated from within the chamber.

Note: Summer Solstice Photo Competition Winner: Mark_in_Wales. View the other entries here. Mark describes his photo: This light beam was photographed at 21:14 BST on the 20th of June 2022. St Lythans Burial Chamber is a highly accurate tool for determining the Winter Calendar and making this stunning Arrowhead light-beam at The arrowhead shape (known as an oblique arrowhead in academic circles) is extremely precise, with a straight back, curved cutting surface and hooked single tang. The light-beam is formed by only three stones and the angle of the wall it is being projected onto.
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St Lythans submitted by Postman : Site in South Glamorgan Wales (Vote or comment on this photo)

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St Lythans submitted by SolarMegalith : St Lythans - this East-West orientated burial chamber with 4 m long capstone is one of my favorite prehistoric monuments I have ever visited (photo taken on July 2008). (Vote or comment on this photo)

St Lythans spring sunset at through the porthole
St Lythans spring sunset at through the porthole submitted by morgannwg : The Spring Equinox happens on Sunday 20th March in 2022, but observations of the setting sun pouring through the west end port-hole are possible between 18th and 22nd, depending on the sun and sky at sunset. Even on a sunny evening, low cloud banks on the horizon can mess up the final moments. I took the video down because we never got around to editing it to be shorter, but its back up now at fil... (3 comments - Vote or comment on this photo)

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St Lythans submitted by Megalau : Site in South Glamorgan Wales (1 comment - Vote or comment on this photo)

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St Lythans submitted by Kinsalegreg : St Lytham's from the back - a very interesting arrangement of stones. Very calm and still that day with no traffic noise - just a hum of heat off the field. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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St Lythans submitted by Bladup : St Lythans chambered cairn.

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St Lythans submitted by Andy B : Source: CADW Press Release (C) CADW Site in South Glamorgan Wales (3 comments)

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St Lythans submitted by Horatio : All the stones are mudstone, which, as with those used at Tinkinswood, were probably available locally. The capstone, which slopes downwards from south east to north west measures four metres (13 ft) long, three metres (10 ft) wide, and 0.7 metres (2 ft) thick. The insides of the two facing, rectangular, uprights have been smoothed off and there is a port-hole at the top of the triangular, rear st...

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St Lythans submitted by Megalau : Site in South Glamorgan Wales

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St Lythans submitted by coldrum : St Lythans Dig 2011 (5 comments)

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St Lythans submitted by rldixon : St Lythams cromlech Taken in Infra Red July 2006 (1 comment)

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St Lythans submitted by DrewParsons : I asked the cattle nicely and they agreed to move aside for one last clear photo of the site - my last shot of a prehistoric site in the UK on this trip up from NZ. September 2010.

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St Lythans submitted by Sunny100 : A misty view of St Lythans burial Chamber/Cromlech/Dolmen. Its capstone measures 14 x 10. According to the legend - on Midsummer's Eve the capstone spins around three times. The druids apparently inhabited the area where the stone now stands. (2 comments)

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St Lythans submitted by Bladup : The lovely St Lythans chambered cairn. This Original Artwork in a glass frame is £39.99 + Postage (Just whatever it costs), and is 18 cm x 12 and a half cm. A limited (to a 100) edition print in a 8" x 10" glass frame would be £19.99 + £2.90 postage, E-mail me at paul.blades@rocketmail.com if interested. (10 comments)

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St Lythans submitted by Blingo_von_Trumpenstein : Visited here 13th Sept approx 5pm. Absolutely amazed to see the whole figure sculpture that is the back stone of the tomb. This really looks like a bearded, moustached, long haired middle aged man looking surprised. This side of the stone is well protected from the elements and relatively unweathered. Does anyone else see this (clearly Angie does)? Even Cope does not mention it. It blew my mind ... (7 comments)

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St Lythans submitted by coldrum : St Lythans Dig 2011

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St Lythans submitted by Runemage : Image by Mandolin who says, “40 years since I visited this site and thankfully no change, still as impressive and commanding as ever.”

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St Lythans submitted by rldixon : St Lythams with some of the local wildlife ;-) couldn't find any horses or donkeys (2 comments)

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St Lythans submitted by DrewParsons : The official guide showing off the site wanted to pose by it too!! September 2010.

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St Lythans submitted by rldixon : St Lythans cromlech south Glamorgan Wales taken in infra red. (1 comment)

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St Lythans submitted by sem : Legend has it that on Midsummer's Eve the capstone of this chamber spins round three times. The field in which it stands is known as the "Accursed Field". ST100723 (2 comments)

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St Lythans submitted by Antonine : 2008

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St Lythans submitted by ArchAstro : St Lythans Visited on a misty October morning in 2017 (view from the back/west looking eastward)

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St Lythans submitted by ArchAstro : St Lythans Visited on a misty October morning in 2017

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Re: St Lythans by morgannwg on Monday, 12 February 2024
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It's the gift that keeps on giving. St Lythan's (Gwal y Filiast - Lair of the Greyhound).
The name may be an Arthurian reference or one of the many forms of a female deity back in 4000BCE. Both suggestion have been made by local enthusiasts.
For the record, there are many Arthur toponyms in the Vale of Glamorgan area, I had a list using OS maps from past 50 years. (Will post if I can find it!).
Anyway, 2 reasons for this post. One to share the excitement the prize-winning photo featured earlier of the arrowhead light through the south-facing stone of the dolmen.
Secondly, for anyone who can get to the dolmen over the vernal equinox, you will see and can film the moment the sun at sunset kisses the horizon and shoots through the porthole for around 5-10 seconds. It's easier now as at the autumn equinox the horizon trees are in leaf and get in the way. The vernal equinox is perfect. Just need clear sun at sunset and the cows probably won't be out grazing till later in the year.
We did ours in 2017. ( See www.thecelticway.org) With more people filming it, maybe CADW will update their information board to mention this function of what I believe is a manmade porthole, not natural one. CADW have only recently conceded the E/W alignment of the site.
A future topic perhaps worth a search is the way the hilltop above the site potentially relates to the Somerset hills across the Bristol Channel.
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    Re: St Lythans holed stone by AngieLake on Tuesday, 13 February 2024
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    Glad to hear you're monitoring this feature Morgannwg. I added my dowsing plan to a comment under the recent photo, in case it is any help. I always felt that hole was important, since dowsing, and photographing there in 2002.
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St Lythans - The Megalithic Dolmen in My Neighborhood by Andy B on Tuesday, 23 January 2018
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The St Lythans burial chamber was built around 6,000 BP, composed of enormous slabs of fine-grained sedimentary rock called mudstone. These huge rocks were put together as part of a chambered long barrow, a sort of communal tomb, during the mid Neolithic period, so actual cave people from the stone age – people who made spear tips from flint and hunted the giant Irish elk and feared being eaten by the brown bears still flourishing in isles – built it. This thing was put together when wooly mammoths were still alive and making baby wooly mammoths. The descendants of the people who made it wouldn’t start work on Stonehenge until more than 1500 years after this was created.

It is old as hell, is what I am saying.

And it is right out in a middle of a field, Maesyfelin (The Mill Field), for people to look at. It’s expected that no one will try to damage it. It is simply assumed there are no asshats in Wales low enough to torque with Neolithic monuments sacred to Welsh prehistory. You can walk right up to it and touch it. The only things guarding it are … cows. Welsh cows, and therefore fierce bovines I’m sure, but still … cows. Two of them stared right at me when I approached the dolmen. I assume they were monitoring me for sudden signs of vandalism.

http://www.kyrackramer.com/2017/08/26/the-megalithic-dolmen-in-my-neighborhood/
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Re: St Lythans by Andy B on Tuesday, 23 January 2018
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Severe erosion by cattle in 1992 lead to the exposure of sub-soil cairn material within the chamber and on the north side. This lead to the chance discovery, as surface finds, of a fragment of polished stone axe and several flint flakes – some retouched – by Toby Driver in 1992. These joined a fine leaf-shaped flint arrowhead, found independently in the same erosion feature, and placed in the National Museum Wales, Cardiff. The finds were published in Archaeologia Cambrensis, 1992, and constitute a significant addition to the poorly-recorded finds noted by Lukis in 1875. Following the discovery of these finds, conservation was carried out on the badly eroded tomb in the early 1990s with soil and turfs replaced to cover the exposed areas.

In the early 19th century it was called The Greyhound-bitch kennel and was used as an animal shelter. There is a tradition that the field in which the stones stand is cursed, and that nothing will grow there. The stones themselves were believed to grant any wish whispered to them on Hallowe’en. Another legend says that the wedge-shaped capstone spins three times each Midsummer’s Eve; this story fits with one of the chambered tomb’s Welsh names (Maes-y-Felin), which translates as ‘The Mill in the Meadow’. The same night all the stones are said to go bathing in the river.

Source:
https://tinkinswoodarchaeology.wordpress.com/2011/09/07/some-background-information-about-st-lythans-burial-chamber/
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St Lythan’s Dig Diary: First week’s round-up by Andy B on Sunday, 04 December 2011
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We have now finished our first week at St Lythan’s, and what a week it has been! We have opened all but one of our trenches, revealing the top level of the archaeology. We’ve found out a lot about this monument’s structure and have had several interesting and exciting finds. Next week, we’ll be opening the last trench, which contains the chamber contents. Although, evidence may not be stratigraphic here, we hope to find out some more about what the chamber contained. Here’s a summary of what’s been going on so far:

What an amazing first week we have had at St Lythan’s burial chamber – the weather has been good (apart from last Monday!), and we are really beginning to get a clearer picture of the structure and plan of the monument. A large trench has been opened lengthways across the mound (Trench 1), and work has been going so well here that almost the whole trench was exposed by the third day!

This trench has revealed that the stone cairn material is made up of large slabs and boulders and small pebbles – probably anything that was available locally, with a possible circular feature around the chamber itself. Could this point to phases of construction of the long mound, with the round circular mound supporting the upright stones, with the longer mound added later? Hopefully as we go down through the archaeology we will be able to answer this question…

More at
http://tinkinswoodarchaeology.wordpress.com/2011/11/25/st-lythans-dig-diary-first-weeks-round-up/

and some overhead photos with more updates to come here:
http://tinkinswoodarchaeology.wordpress.com/2011/11/29/st-lythans-chambered-tomb-from-above/
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Tinkinswood Community Archaeology open days by Andy B on Thursday, 10 November 2011
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The aim of the project is to re-interpret Tinkinswood and St Lythan's Neolithic burial chambers though volunteer clearance, community excavation and school outreach. The St Lythans excavations start on 18th November.

The tour dates for the St Lythan's excavation are as follows:

Saturday 26th/ Sunday 27th of November
Saturday 3rd/ Sunday 4th of December

Hope to see you there!

Best, Ffion

Follow us on the blog: http://tinkinswoodarchaeology.wordpress.com/
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Re: St Lythans by coldrum on Friday, 16 April 2010
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Re: St Lythans by AngieLake on Saturday, 06 February 2010
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CADW - in 'Heritage of Wales', [1989 pub.] - say this:
"Just a mile from the larger tomb at Tinkinswood, St Lythans is also known as Gwal y Filiast - 'Kennel of the Greyhound Bitch' - a folk name possibly allusive to a variant of the Arthurian legend of Kilhwch and Olwen. Today, almost all of the surrounding cairn has disappeared, but this means that the single rectangular chamber stands impressive and conspicuous. In fact, to be precise, the chamber is trapezoid in plan, and three surviving upright slabs support a single great capstone, all of which are locally derived Triassic mudstones."
[I DID wonder what those odd looking stones were!]
"The tomb again belongs to the 'Severn-Cotswold' family, and its overall shape must have been similar to that of Tinkinswood. Slight traces of the much denuded cairn can be seen extending for about 80 to 90 feet to the west of the chamber."
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Re: St Lythans by coldrum on Tuesday, 10 July 2007
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http://cadw.gov.wales/daysout/stlythansburialchamber/?lang=en
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Re: St Lythans by TimPrevett on Friday, 09 March 2007
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I take it this is an easy one to get at? I've got a friend's wedding and reception coming up very nearby, so may escape for some megaliths for a while, perhaps!
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    Re: St Lythans by TheCaptain on Saturday, 10 March 2007
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    Its very straightforward Tim, once you have found the right place down some little lanes. Park up and its then just a hundred yards or so inside the field. But do go to Tinkinswood as well, and while there check out all the other bits and pieces of megalithic remains as well, theres a couple of other burial chambers, a possible stone avenue and the ancient quarry frm where the massive capstones were taken to be seen as well as the main event, assuming its all still accessible since some of the land was recently sold off.
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    Re: St Lythans by TimPrevett on Saturday, 10 March 2007
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    Are all these other things you mention at Tinkinswood, and documented here or on TMA? Sounds increasingly like I want to take some time out to see these places! Cheers .
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Re: St Lythans by templar on Sunday, 31 October 2004
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Today is Halloween, the day when the stones at St Lythans are said to grant wishes that are spoken in front of them.
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Re: St Lythans by Anonymous on Sunday, 18 April 2004
St Lythams or Gwal-Y-Filiast (Kennel of the greyhound *****) and Maesyfelin are all the same place. I think the confussion has arisen from the RCAHMW database. In it there seem to be several sites with different names and different map co-ordinates (some maybe inaccurate?) and different type references. But if you look carefully they have been made by different organisations (RCHHMW, Gwent & Glamorgan Archeological Trust and CADW) and all relate to the same site. It is quite confusing and I got caught when I started to look for Round Barrows in my local area. I thought I was looking for 12 or 13 in and around Sker Farm near Porthcawl but infact there are only 5 (4 of which I have found)

All the best

Robc
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Re: St Lythans by NickHopper on Thursday, 06 September 2001
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No cowpats but a nice foot and mouth warning sign! The 'accursed field' is supposed to be unfertile but the grass looked very lush to me. Fantastic dolmen - very tall.

The sign pointing out the dolmen looks almost as old - it's one of the old Ancient Monument signs from about 30 years ago - with an alarming tilt and rather weathered look. Remember the days when your Ancient Monument card got you into all sites in the UK - now it's one for England, one for wales etc.
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