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Multi-periodSite Name: Irthington MillCountry: England
NOTE: This site is 0.813 km away from the location you searched for.
County: Cumbria Type: Misc. Earthwork
Nearest Town: Carlisle Nearest Village: Newtown
Map Ref: NY50776237
Latitude: 54.953531N Longitude: 2.770225W
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| 5 | Perfect |
| 4 | Almost Perfect |
| 3 | Reasonable but with some damage |
| 2 | Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site |
| 1 | Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks |
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| -1 | Completely destroyed |
| 5 | Superb |
| 4 | Good |
| 3 | Ordinary |
| 2 | Not Good |
| 1 | Awful |
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| 5 | Can be driven to, probably with disabled access |
| 4 | Short walk on a footpath |
| 3 | Requiring a bit more of a walk |
| 2 | A long walk |
| 1 | In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find |
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| 5 | co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates |
| 4 | co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map |
| 3 | co-ordinates scaled from a bad map |
| 2 | co-ordinates of the nearest village |
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Anne T visited on 20th Aug 2017 - their rating: Cond: 2 Amb: 3 Access: 5 Irthington Mill 'motte or not?': Having spotted two mottes and a holy well just off the road we were travelling on to Carlisle, I asked to take a detour to find these. Whilst this is marked as a motte on the OS map, and certainly looked like one, I got home to find there is some debate about whether this is a motte or a natural feature (it is not recorded on Historic England’s listings).
Situated between a farm with some very old buildings and Irthington Mill house, with part of the Mill’s garden growing up its western slope, and not far from Irthington Bridge, it seemed to me that this motte was in a much more strategic defensible position near the modern day river crossing. Perhaps the course of the river moved over the years and the site of the motte was changed? This is me not wanting to belive its just a natural feature!
Having visited the nearby village of Walton to find the remains of their ancient cross, I spotted two mottes and a holy well marked on the OS map which were very close together, so we took a slight detour off the B6071 towards Irthington to find where these were located.
There seems to be debate about whether this feature is a motte or if it is a natural feature. Pastscape Monument No. 12769. They record the mound allegedly dates to the 12th century and measures 3.5 metres high by 48 metres long and 29 metres wide, orientated roughly east/west but with no associated bailey.
To me, this motte sits is a better defensive position near the River Irthing, near the modern day bridge which crosses the River Irthing. I wondered if the course of the river had changed over the years and they had relocated the motte accordingly. As Pastscape says, "there would not to be mottes so close together in the same manor."
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